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Old 09-21-2016, 03:56 PM
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Let me spell this out again for you. The heads really hit the market what...around 2009ish? Thats 7 years. But they havent even been in production for at least 3 years. And very few during those first few years they were being produced were sold and ended up on running cars.

So they were in production for around 4 years by my estimate. Anyone else here take math in school? 7 - 3 = ?

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my whole point was that whether you use the word badger, harrass, or bash..........when folks have done it against the CV-1 head or people talking in favor of it......it was often just called "asking questions", or "stating facts".
What is it called when CV1 guys talk unfavorably about Eheads?

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Old 09-21-2016, 03:58 PM
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Oh my gosh another Gach! LOL!



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Go back and read your posts.....they babble on to long and are to boring for me to read again. You mentioned something about me not giving TTB any respect.
Pretty sure I mentioned "people" not giving Bill respect. But then again, you were confused by my posts a few minutes ago and thought I'd named you there as well. Any other issues you have with my calling you out? Maybe we can resolve them all at once.

But like others, YOU Paul, and now I am saying your name, do not seem to realize your own bias. Maybe its time to shout EHTTFMF again? It seems necessary to keep the whole fever pitch.

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Old 09-21-2016, 04:00 PM
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You better watch it George those there are fighting words!
Yep sorry that was a LOW blow!


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Old 09-21-2016, 04:06 PM
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I'm not uncomfortable at all. The only thing I'm questioning is the untruths. You might not be comfortable, I've asked you atleast twice about your Pontiac cars and their accomplishments and yet to get an answer.
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If you want to insert yourself into a generic group feel free to do so.

What difference does it make what brand or who's vehicles I have worked on?

I know you are just looking for a reason to pound your chest and say look at what I do, so just go ahead. I sure hope that it makes you feel better.

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What is it called when CV1 guys talk unfavorably about Eheads?
Yes, because we know there are whole threads devoted to bashing E-heads? Whole groups of people jumping on E-heads is it? Point them out. I have a feeling you're going to tell me to look them up myself.

Again, you won't even admit your own bias or having participated in any of it. But guess what? I'm not even here pointing fingers.

After years of watching on the sidelines here I've seen enough to just ask that it stop now. Let it go. Let the CV-1 head either stand or fail on its own without further vitriol.

And I'm not naming you Paul. I'm talking everyone. Give guys like Jim Roland and Dick Fulton a break. If there are those of you that don't like Bill just don't exchange words with him.

This is the ONLY section on PY that acts like this, and its about a dozen or so people.

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And whether you LIKE Bill Anderson or not, I can't believe.....yes, can't believe.....you won't show an ounce of respect to Bill for attempting to achieve something with these heads.



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Here you go. Wrong again! Please follow some good advice and understand what you a posting about before you post...it seems like you're the one confused by your own posts.

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Paul,
If you want to insert yourself into a generic group feel free to do so.

What difference does it make what brand or who's vehicles I have worked on?

I know you are just looking for a reason to pound your chest and say look at what I do, so just go ahead. I sure hope that it makes you feel better.

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I am in a generic group. I perfer to deal with truth. You claimed you did but it's becoming clear you only like the truths that support your beliefs.

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Oh my gosh another Gach! LOL!



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GTO George,
No, Paul can spell, and knows how to use sentence structure. But they do have the same basic ideology, just that Gach does not try and hide it.

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And...if you noticed not every part of that post referred to you Paul. Some parts of it were in general and referred to the whole group of people who have felt it necessary to bash CV-1's. The word "you" can be aimed at an individual, and also be aimed at the collective group. Sorry for the english syntax lecture.

Actually the cheerleading part was mostly what I directed at you. Because if ANYONE has been cheerleading it is those shouting EHTTFMF!!!. Like you did just a few minutes ago.

Recognize cheerleading when you see it Paul? Or should we get all of you short skirts to go along with the shout?


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Old 09-21-2016, 04:26 PM
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I am in a generic group. I perfer to deal with truth. You claimed you did but it's becoming clear you only like the truths that support your beliefs.
Paul,
Since you seem to know. What are my beliefs?

So just what is your version of the truth?

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Old 09-21-2016, 04:32 PM
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Ok, lets deal with the truth. CV-1 heads have shown promise on Dick Fulton's car. They've shown promise on a few others as well. We have at least one person who was very unhappy with his CV-1's.

Let's hope Dick and Jack get to race next year. Maybe some others will join the fray. I want to see some RAV heads mixing it up as well!

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Wow I just read a novel!
Why does everyone compare to junk mass production Eheads? That's setting the bar low don't ya think?

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Wow I just read a novel!
Why does everyone compare to junk mass production Eheads? That's setting the bar low don't ya think?
No, E-heads have proven they are very capable. They don't come out of the box that way though. And are they the ultimate pontiac head? I don't think so.

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What is it called when CV1 guys talk unfavorably about Eheads?
... Wait a minute, now we're the ones doing the bashing ?? ... Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how that reads ?? ...

... I'm pretty sure we're not the ones found in every EHead thread made talking negatively about the EHeads ...

... and certainly not plastering CV1TTFMFR's every chance we get ...

... ...

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What is it called when CV1 guys talk unfavorably about Eheads?
Helping Paul sell more e-heads.

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Why does everyone compare to junk mass production Eheads? That's setting the bar low don't ya think?
... Actually I agree 100% but it keeps getting brought up by EHead guys every time you start a CV-1 thread, they follow, lol ...

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Let me spell this out again for you. The heads really hit the market what...around 2009ish? Thats 7 years. But they havent even been in production for at least 3 years. And very few during those first few years they were being produced were sold and ended up on running cars.

So they were in production for around 4 years by my estimate. Anyone else here take math in school? 7 - 3 = ?
So the heads came out in 08-09 right? They sold out at some point and according to you weren't available for 3 yrs, correct? So all progress/developement just stop for those 3 yrs? What happened to all the people that owned the heads during those years. They parked their cars?
Im sorry but you can't just subtract those years.

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Why does everyone compare to junk mass production Eheads? That's setting the bar low don't ya think?
You are very correct. Lets compare it to another cast head with very similar design features. The Warp6, both heads are raised intake runner, both heads have canted valves, both can be had with raised exhaust ports, and both have a twist to the valve layout. Seems comparable, but i'm guessing someone will cry foul.

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