[Robert C.]

Allpontiac wants to wish everyone a Happy New Year in 2016. It will be a great year.

To start off with our IA ll Aluminum block sale for a limited time only.

$3,995.00 with STD options. That's a $800.00 dollars savings and over 100 pounds of weight savings off the front of your car.

All of our retail vendors will be offering
this deal too. So don't wait to long to reserve yours now.

Make that call today.

BTW IA II stands for Indian Adventures

[mysticmissle]

When will.they be available or are they ready to ship

[Robert C.]

We are finishing a run now. Yes we will have a few left on this this run. And will place a large order for castings on January 20.

[estep455]

how much power will they take and what kind of life expectancy out of them? thanks

[adam woodmancy]

get two danny

[FrankG]

Hey all,
Happy New Year!
To answer the power level question. Steve Morris has an IA II aluminum block motor on his web site that made 2000HP on his dyno. One of Butler's customer is running one @ 1600HP. Those are the highest numbers that I know about. Life expectancy is really up to the builder/owner/driver. A broken balancer or any other breakage can take out any block. Missing a tune up can severely damage many components without being immediately evident. All the bad stuff shows up much later.
Our block material and heat treat are the same as Donovan's big and small blocks. Same Foundry. With all of the changes that we made to these second generation aluminum blocks they are as good as they can be. HPP did an article with specifics on all of the changes.
The January block order should be ready for shipping in March.
Hope this helps.
FrankG

[FrankG]

We will have a couple available for shipping next week.

[Tom Vaught]

Happy New Year Frank, Hope you and family had a great Christmas.

Thanks for all of your help over the years.

Tom V.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Robert C.

We are finishing a run now. Yes we will have a few left on this this run. And will place a large order for castings on January 20.

Bob, Happy New Year. Hope you and family had a wonderful Christmas.

Thank you for your help over the years and I enjoyed the inside info on the special projects you did with the G boys.

Tom V.

[v869tr6]

Are the cylinder sleeves any longer in these blocks compared to a stock length cylinder?

[estep455]

Originally Posted by FrankG

Hey all,
Happy New Year!
To answer the power level question. Steve Morris has an IA II aluminum block motor on his web site that made 2000HP on his dyno. One of Butler's customer is running one @ 1600HP. Those are the highest numbers that I know about. Life expectancy is really up to the builder/owner/driver. A broken balancer or any other breakage can take out any block. Missing a tune up can severely damage many components without being immediately evident. All the bad stuff shows up much later.
Our block material and heat treat are the same as Donovan's big and small blocks. Same Foundry. With all of the changes that we made to these second generation aluminum blocks they are as good as they can be. HPP did an article with specifics on all of the changes.
The January block order should be ready for shipping in March.
Hope this helps.
FrankG

thank you

[Tom Vaught]

I will have to ask David Butler to look after the holidays.

I know he has a couple of (latest run) aluminum blocks for sure.

Tom V.

[Robert C.]

These second generation IA II Aluminum Donavan style blocks are super strong. They are Heat Treat to 900 degrees and held there for 10 hours and then water quench to 32 degrees in seconds. This aligns the molecule grains tighter and adds a T6 temper. This process is not cheap.

The bottom end mains are connected 3 inches up in to the water jacket area. We added extra ribbing on the sides and back bulk head. We have sold over a 100 of these blocks over the years.

Jeff V. Told me he has won 20k or more over the years and has thousands of passes on his block. He stated is is all from the way the block cools down so fast.

He won this year's championship again. I think he has won this three times.
You couldn't pry this block out of him if you tried. Well may be for a million bucks.

I will try to get him to respond on this post.

[estep455]

Originally Posted by Robert C.

These second generation IA II Aluminum Donavan style blocks are super strong. They are Heat Treat to 900 degrees and held there for 10 hours and then water quench to 32 degrees in seconds. This aligns the molecule grains tighter and adds a T6 temper. This process is not cheap.

The bottom end mains are connected 3 inches up in to the water jacket area. We added extra ribbing on the sides and back bulk head. We have sold over a 100 of these blocks over the years.

Jeff V. Told me he has won 20k or more over the years and has thousands of passes on his block. He stated is is all from the way the block cools down so fast.

He won this year's championship again. I think he has won this three times.
You couldn't pry this block out of him if you tried. Well may be for a million bucks.

I will try to get him to respond on this post.

thanks Bob the reason I asked was big chief told me at the pri that he had to have a billet block and then this post made me wonder why? thanks for the info.

[Jack Ferris]

Can I trade in my unused iron block?

[chiefbigb]

Smoking deal. Thanks for the discount

[Jeff V]

Originally Posted by Robert C.

These second generation IA II Aluminum Donavan style blocks are super strong. They are Heat Treat to 900 degrees and held there for 10 hours and then water quench to 32 degrees in seconds. This aligns the molecule grains tighter and adds a T6 temper. This process is not cheap.

The bottom end mains are connected 3 inches up in to the water jacket area. We added extra ribbing on the sides and back bulk head. We have sold over a 100 of these blocks over the years.

Jeff V. Told me he has won 20k or more over the years and has thousands of passes on his block. He stated is is all from the way the block cools down so fast.

He won this year's championship again. I think he has won this three times.
You couldn't pry this block out of him if you tried. Well may be for a million bucks.

I will try to get him to respond on this post.

I have run the alum blocks since AllPontiac began making them. The first one I put over 2000 runs on it. Major issue with my engine plate(breaking off frame after wheelstand) caused a catastrophe that took out that block. I got a new block in the summer of 2014 and now have over 300 runs on it. It does cool down quickly. I don't really push the block anywhere near the power it can handle. It probably makes around 800-850 hp.
I have won 4 championships using these blocks and over $50K in winnings.
Thanks Bob and Frank for the great product.

[Robert C.]

Thanks Jeff for the update.

[LiL Jack]

How about a stretched aluminum block?

[Robert C.]

If you buy 10 we will make them V16 cylinders.