[Aus Goat]

Doing the normal look around on ebay and spotted these two Judges

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...m=251993727009
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...m=141693287220

Project for someone

[68gtoMN]

Craig, you're missing the "opportunity of a lifetime" to own a verified, original Pontiac GTO Judge...or at least the tags and shell from a judge which will be used on a donor car to resurrect each of them...

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[Diego]

Here's the VINs, assuming they've been typed correctly:

242379R181712
242379G131424

They will come up in a Google search, so any future prospective buyer should demand resto photos that demonstrate they were not rebodied.

[Ron Landis]

on my watch list. The roll-over car isn't really a bad start. Pontiac is the hold-out on legit rebodies. You can buy Camaros and Goodmark at one time was buying up titles so they could offer to their customers the choice of a new or "restored" car. Pontiac guys still believe that a patchwork quilt using only the original firewall is the best route. Not gonna open that can of worms but replacing a shell is the better option in my book. By rights...these cars pulled back from the grave should have salvage titles anyway...but show me a Judge that does. I know of a RA IV bought as a $250 shell for parts...until the block was found in the trunk. Now it's a show car....with a clean title no less! As the law sees it...if the car was reconstructed, the seller is obligated to disclose that it was a salvage car...but like I said....who does that?

[Ron Landis]

Originally Posted by Diego

Here's the VINs, assuming they've been typed correctly:

242379R181712
242379G131424

They will come up in a Google search, so any future prospective buyer should demand resto photos that demonstrate they were not rebodied.

nothing short of a salvage title would be considered legit...as both cars are obvious totals...right? Well....maybe the rust-out wasn't...but if it were stolen and recovered in this condition...I'm betting it would be totaled out as well.

[Aus Goat]

Money in to fix the Judge vrs Future sale price that would have to be a close call unless you are keeping it for years .
As for donor car would that not be called a clone and not a true Judge .
In Aus in the last couple of years there has been law suits over cars .Was not even the clone game but bolts and repop panels not being original . I would like to send the link but it freezes the computer (XY GT law suit if you want to look it up) .

[johnta1]

XW GT Lawsuit

[Simple Man]

Originally Posted by johnta1

XW GT Lawsuit

Where does "caveat emptor" come into play? He takes experts with him, looked it over a couple of different times, and years later, he determines it's a clone?

[Aus Goat]

I think this all happened because they brought it as a investment . People start looking over the car and saying its not worth the money its got this and that missing or replaced .When 1 of these cars went for 1million you can see why . And yes that's 1 million for a Aussie Ford