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Solid engine mounts
I'm trying to find some solid motor mounts for my Pontiac. Who makes them and where can i get them?
Thanks in advance - greg |
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I bought mine from Butler and they look good welds are nice. http://butlerperformance.com/product...otorMounts.htm
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In my opinion they are block destroyers ....
Wonder why Pontiacs have trouble with #2&3 mains so much... If this a street car I'd chain or strap it down. If race I'd go with a front plat of some kind...such as AllPontiac.. My
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ECM member. 2008 Outlaw Pontiac Drag Series Champion MANDRA Do it now fool! Life is short. 69 Grand Prix/3163lbs / IAII 535 w/ Tiger heads by Gaydosh....9.35@ 144 so far.. through mufflers. 1.26 60'. Going back to track with pump gas engine.... My 60 Ventura retired to street/strip duty.. |
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Troy,was told the same by Nunzi.Tom
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Do not run the solid motor mounts. Unless you want problems like 60man wrote. If it is a street car use the Mighty Mounts.
I run them along with "elephant ears" I made. One of the best things I have ever done to my strip only car. Engine stays rock solid. Front plate if you can make it work. One of the worst things you can do is run solid mounts with a MSD 2 step. Begging for trouble. I got this info from Dan Whittmore. |
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Mity mounts are junk too, you need a supplement strap. 1st time out last week broke left side mity mount. I bought the stainless steel urethane with a good interlock system.
By the way, the saftey catch on the mity mount did not work either. You should take the screw out of the Mity mount, put a bolt and nut the mount. |
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My brother and I have run Indian Adventures solid motor mounts for the last 15 years. Both cars run low nine second quarter mile times @ 140 plus mph weighing well over 3700 lbs., and we've never had any issues.
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Lucky 😎
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ECM member. 2008 Outlaw Pontiac Drag Series Champion MANDRA Do it now fool! Life is short. 69 Grand Prix/3163lbs / IAII 535 w/ Tiger heads by Gaydosh....9.35@ 144 so far.. through mufflers. 1.26 60'. Going back to track with pump gas engine.... My 60 Ventura retired to street/strip duty.. |
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Stock block???
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Add me to the lucky list using solid mounts. Long time leaving on the trans brake at 5,500 and haven't seen any problems with number 2 or 3 mains.
But now you have me worried, and I'll be adding a front strap before going out again.
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Mick Batson 1967 original owner Tyro Blue/black top 4-speed HO GTO with all the original parts stored safely away -- 1965 2+2 survivor AC auto -- 1965 Catalina Safari Wagon in progress. |
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Wonder if ill get called lucky LMAO we'll see if I take my block out or not from either the solid mounts or the massive cam hmmmmmmm I wonder LOL
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When you made the "elephant ears", Did you make them from 1/4" steel or Aluminum? Did you attach them to the heads or to the front of the timing chain cover? Asking because I'm in the middle of having someone working the chassis on my car. I did buy the solid mounts from Butler, but after reading this I may go a different way. The car is strictly for the track. Stock block. Thanks, Lou |
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Back in the days before these options where available, I just took some flat stock and made mine solid and made a limiter with heims and attached to the head & frame
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I made my ears out of aluminum. 1/2" x 3" on the passenger side and 3/8"x3" on the driver side. They are mounted to the 3 bolts on the front of the heads. Are about 13" long.
What I did was take a thin piece of cardboard from a Coke 12 pack and cut it 3" by 13". Then trim and fit it to fit on either side so it ended up 1/2" or so above my frame rails on my 69 GTO. I pushed with my fingers the cardboard into the 3 holes on the front of each head and made the round marks. Used a transfer punch to center the 3/8" bolt holes in the aluminum and drilled the holes. Drilled 2 3/8" holes on the bottom frame side of the ears and made a 1/4"x3 1/2" x 1 1/2" steel flat bar stock to match. Bolted them on to each head and the same with the bottom 2 bolts. Tacked the steel to the frame, took off the ears and welded up the steel to the frame. Used 3/32 7018 rod. Easier to get the rod down there than a Mig gun. Used grade 8 bolts and never looked back. I run pump gas with iron heads. Never had a gasket problem. But, maybe one might with aluminum heads and high CR. |
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I've run 1 solid mount on 3 different blocks (2 400's 1 455) with a stock rubber drivers side and a rubber trans mount for over 10 years. Jim Butler told me it's ok to do that and running 2 solid mounts can cause block problems.
I don't make near the power most of you do though.
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68 GTO,3860# Stock Original 400/M-20 Muncie,3.55’s 13.86 @ 100 Old combo: 462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's. 1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH New combo: 517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's 636HP/654TQ 1.452 10.603 @ 125.09 http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html |
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If you have to run mounts, use the rubber or poly and use some sort of limiter,... strap, chain, or turnbuckle. With a rigid front sub-frame with j bars one may get away with solid mounts.
Just think if the engine has enough power to rip a rubber mount into during hard acceleration, it has to be trying to pull apart the driver side of the block and compress the passenger side of the block.
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1963 Cat SD Clone (old school) streeter 1964 GTO post coupe, tripower, 4speed (build) 1965 GTO 389 tripower, 4 speed, driver 1966 GTO dragcar 1966 GTO Ragtop 1969 Tempest ET clone street/strip 1969 GTO Judge RA lll, auto 1969 GTO limelight Conv. 4speed go and show (sold) 1970 GP SSJ 1970 GTO barn find..TLB…390 horse?….yeh, 390 1972 GTO 455 HO, 4 speed, (build) 1973 Grand Safari wagon, 700hp stoplight sleeper 525ci DCI & 609ci LM V head builds |
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Not all stock blocks are created equal.
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ECM member. 2008 Outlaw Pontiac Drag Series Champion MANDRA Do it now fool! Life is short. 69 Grand Prix/3163lbs / IAII 535 w/ Tiger heads by Gaydosh....9.35@ 144 so far.. through mufflers. 1.26 60'. Going back to track with pump gas engine.... My 60 Ventura retired to street/strip duty.. |
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Im just curious, its probably a stupid question but will hard block help this at all? cuz my block is filled to front water pump holes on front of block, its gunna be a strictly race engine due to the hard block and dont think cam is gunna be to streetable lol
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