[Ray Cox]

Jack I asked if you still had it never said I wanted to buy it.. Had another post going trying to use one for the first 2 races.. Another py member came through. Got it today.. But I did end up buying it instead of using it..Arron don't forget this project is only partially financed so far. Long way to go. I don't have LIL Jack cash.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Ray Cox

Jack I asked if you still had it never said I wanted to buy it.. Had another post going trying to use one for the first 2 races.. Another py member came through. Got it today.. But I did end up buying it instead of using it..Arron don't forget this project is only partially financed so far. Long way to go. I don't have LIL Jack cash.

Maybe get a second job delivering pizzas?

[Hooter]

Originally Posted by David Holmberg

I think PY should sponsor a tennis match, we're getting good at it.

Volleys back and forth, that is.

I've always said we need one of those blow up boxing rings with the inflated gloves for Norwalk. Everyone can take their aggressions out on each other. Too bad most of us old farts on here are at or nearing heart attack age and we'd end up in the ER.

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by Hooter

.... Too bad most of us old farts on here are at or nearing heart attack age and we'd end up in the ER.

Hey, I resemble that remark!!

Jim

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Hooter

I've always said we need one of those blow up boxing rings with the inflated gloves for Norwalk. Everyone can take their aggressions out on each other. Too bad most of us old farts on here are at or nearing heart attack age and we'd end up in the ER.

Speak for yourself, I'm not even 40 yet!

[Aaron Quinton]

I have to go back to work Monday so my entertainment will be up for another 11.9 months. But the debating is good entertainment.

Originally Posted by David Holmberg

I think PY should sponsor a tennis match, we're getting good at it.

Volleys back and forth, that is.

[David Holmberg]

11.9 months, going on deployment?

[Aaron Quinton]

Nope, just back to work which will take a majority of my time again.

Originally Posted by David Holmberg

11.9 months, going on deployment?

[David Holmberg]

We'll leave a light on for ya.

[John Langer]

Originally Posted by Aaron Quinton

I did not say with an N2O cam. I said it should be capble of 1150 hp NA (assuming an optimized NA cam). It will make a lot less with an N2O cam.

We all know when you mash 30% more mass through the engine with juice the cam changes a bunch. EVO will happen much earlier and IVC will happen a little later.

Wtf is a nitrous cam? Can someone please explain to me what it is? Is it a huge split on intake and exhaust duration (like I run n/a). Is it a huge scented line duration (like I run n/a)? Can I have an example of a nos cam?......

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by John Langer

Wtf is a nitrous cam? Can someone please explain to me what it is? Is it a huge split on intake and exhaust duration (like I run n/a). Is it a huge scented line duration (like I run n/a)? Can I have an example of a nos cam?......

John its the same thing as a NITROUS caburetor that people run. LMFAO

[Aaron Quinton]

If you take your engine and mash 50% more mass through the exhaust port using N2O don't you think it will want something different on the exhaust cam timing? EVO will happen sooner during the expansion stroke. Ask Uncle Tony if he'd run the same cam NA vs N2O in his Cougar for best performance.

Originally Posted by John Langer

Wtf is a nitrous cam? Can someone please explain to me what it is? Is it a huge split on intake and exhaust duration (like I run n/a). Is it a huge scented line duration (like I run n/a)? Can I have an example of a nos cam?......

[David Holmberg]

Aaron, actually big inch motors use NA cams that are very close to what some consider nitrous cams are.

[Aaron Quinton]

David, thanks for the note. I get all of that. What I'm saying is that a big CID NA engine will want an earlier EVO when using Nitrous (spreading the lobe centers further). When you increase mass flow 50% it will change the cam for best performance. Make sense?

[Region Warrior]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

I don't care if he worked at NASA an E head with a victor will not make 1150 HP NA!

You calculator racers are something else!

Doesn't All Pontiac sell a NA 1150 HP package?

[John Langer]

Originally Posted by David Holmberg

Aaron, actually big inch motors use NA cams that are very close to what some consider nitrous cams are.

That's a bingo...

[John Langer]

Originally Posted by Aaron Quinton

David, thanks for the note. I get all of that. What I'm saying is that a big CID NA engine will want an earlier EVO when using Nitrous (spreading the lobe centers further). When you increase mass flow 50% it will change the cam for best performance. Make sense?

When you have a Pontiac and need to increase the intake valve diameter to cram as much **** as you can in the cylinder you need to leave the little exhaust valve open longer to get it all out. Just sayin'

[Aaron Quinton]

You are 100% spot on. Run the biggest intake valve you can package and let the exh be what it is (when you are intake area limited). The small exh valve drives the need for more exh duration (earlier EVO). If you take your engine and add N2O which increases the mass through the port by ~50%, you'll have to open the exhaust even sooner. Make sense?

Originally Posted by John Langer

When you have a Pontiac and need to increase the intake valve diameter to cram as much **** as you can in the cylinder you need to leave the little exhaust valve open longer to get it all out. Just sayin'

[johnta1]

you need to leave the little exhaust valve open longer to get it all out. Just sayin'

Longer?
Or later? (exhaust closure)

[John Langer]

My cam does not have one duration profile on the front side of the lobe and a different on the back side. I already run over 30 degree difference on duration from intake to exhaust so would a nitrous cam have 40-50????