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Old 12-22-2013, 12:27 PM
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"If you think to know something, but cannot calculate it, then your information is deemed meager" - A very wise man.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:33 PM
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If Stan is short for Stanley, then I get this:

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Stanley Weiss is an American professional poker player residing in Nashville, Tennessee.

So this car thing is a side hobby?
From a 2010 Hot Rod Magazine. While there are some on here who would have catch that mistake, many on here today will look at that graph and still go WTF.

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Old 12-22-2013, 12:39 PM
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Wow! Way to many cocks in the hen house.

WGAF.... Jack has a bad ass set of heads....bottom line. Hopefully this newest innovation helps move the Pontiac race engine forward. We are fortunate to have some really, really intelligent people on the forum to help us with any hurdle we face but all this bickering back and forth it's bound drive us into the grave.

Good luck to Jack with his future performance goals.

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I showed you a real fact in post #389, you chose to ignore it mostly, post a nonsensical reply and fail to answer the question why a 1300@5500 horsepower turbo diesel is quite a bit slower than a 1000@9800 horsepower NA engine.
What 'fact'?

Need more 'facts' than it's 1000HP?
A dyno sheet maybe?
Weight of the truck?

Not your 'fact' that it's 1000HP.


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As you know mathematics is the only true universal language.

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There's quite a few math guys as well as engineers in here.

If everything is calculated, then every high end class builder wouldn't need a dyno, track testing, etc. All we would need is just a lab!!

For nearly 20 years in the field, on the dyno, flowbench, and racetrack. I am reminded of how imperfect engines, induction systems can be!

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is the math years or what? i thought someone said something about some billet heads at one point on here... nah must have been another thread.

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There's quite a few math guys as well as engineers in here.

If everything is calculated, then every high end class builder wouldn't need a dyno, track testing, etc. All we would need is just a lab!!

For nearly 20 years in the field, on the dyno, flowbench, and racetrack. I am reminded of how imperfect engines, induction systems can be!
Gaby,
If the empirical data does not match the equations something is wrong. The next questions are which and why.

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Old 12-22-2013, 01:10 PM
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Wow! Way to many cocks in the hen house.

WGAF.... Jack has a bad ass set of heads....bottom line. Hopefully this newest innovation helps move the Pontiac race engine forward. We are fortunate to have some really, really intelligent people on the forum to help us with any hurdle we face but all this bickering back and forth it's bound drive us into the grave.

Good luck to Jack with his future performance goals.

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Very True. Lil jack's head are giant step forward for the Pontiac community. Most of what has been gone on here the last x number of pages has nothing to do with Lil Jack's heads and should have been a separate thread.

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Old 12-22-2013, 01:15 PM
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So what about "If you can prove something from multiple credible sources, But someone else cant comprehend or calualtorize it, Then the calculator operators information digestion aptitude is inadequate and unable to reverse engineer a fact of life"- A very smart a$$ Racer
Mike how many times has Warren Johnson found more head flow only to have the car slow down? Or how many times has he found more power on the dyno only to have the car ET slower than the lower HP engine?

The flowbench, the Dyno and the Computer don't run down the track, that's why we race 'em.

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Very True. Lil jack's head are giant step forward for the Pontiac community. Most of what has been gone on here the last x number of pages has nothing to do with Lil Jack's heads and should have been a separate thread.

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Old 12-22-2013, 01:26 PM
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What 'fact'?

Need more 'facts' than it's 1000HP?
A dyno sheet maybe?
Weight of the truck?

Not your 'fact' that it's 1000HP.

Wow... you are really up on this stuff aren't you? The rules in PST were 2300 pounds. Why is it that you cant seem to answer a question straight forward? I asked you before but I will ask it again, at 358" how much power do you think they made? I know how much even if I don't have a dyno sheet here at home to show you. You seem to understand very little about any of these sorts of things, not sure why you feel the need to showcase that??? Fascinating!

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David thats why we have to have an open mind. I know of more than 1 guy that made more on the dyno with a combo change and lost et and never could find it. Switch back and BAM right back were the car was. The same hp on a dyno does not always accelerate a car the same.

I would bet Warren has been in that situation more than a few times.

I really hope it doesn't happen to me this year.


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then every high end class builder wouldn't need a dyno, track testing, etc
No calculating going on in any of those things?


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is the math years or what? i thought someone said something about some billet heads at one point on here... nah must have been another thread.
The Billet Heads were CMC'd from math. Math. yea, that's right math.
Someone did the math.

Let's review shall we
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is the math years or what? i thought someone said something about some billet heads at one point on here... nah must have been another thread.
there needs to be a "time out" every few posts for self promotion, sell a few sim packs and a math lesson for everyone.

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So after 23 pages I have come to the conclusion Lil Jack is getting some billet heads that Gaby is massaging for him.

Congrats Lil Jack. Glad you have the determination to go in uncharted territory and not jump ship and take the easy way.

To the haters and naysayers and calculator racers.... now I see why I quit posting here years ago. Maybe you should go clean your hood tach and make sure your date codes match on your racecar instead of cluttering the thread.

Get a f*****g life. When this man is out kicking ass of other brands with a Pontiac thats what its all about.

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If the empirical data does not match the equations something is wrong. The next questions are which and why.

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I suspect the EQUATION is wrong or at least incomplete. There are things going on inside a running engine that either dont have a proper formula or are not being applied correctly. They have had to develop mega super computers to duplicate and explain the expansion of the universe, I suspect it would take similar equations to evaluate an engines power potencial, given all the variables, seen and unseen.-------- am I wrong ????

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Wow... you are really up on this stuff aren't you? The rules in PST were 2300 pounds.
WOW!!!!
Guess not.

Pro Stock Truck hasn't ran for over 10 years.
I didn't follow it anyway, have no clue what their specs were.

Just using 2300 weight and 7.43 ET, around 1100 HP.


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I saw it.....then I found out who's it was.....and I molested every port. Should be a game changer for nitrous queers. Still won't outrun turbo guys with e heads lol.....and for the price I could start three small business 's....holy crap .


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nice pic....was there any thought process including a provision for extra headbolts?

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