[GTOGEORGE]

I got one better............why is someone that doesn't race in the Heads Up class even worried about it. Just like earlier when the computer racers started stuff about the Q16 race. Just saying!


GTO George

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by mgarblik

Bans and restrictions limit innovation . In a heads-up class, I think anything that will bolt to a Pontiac style block should be allowed. There are plenty of limited classes with all kinds of rules about what you can and can't run. Even if your not a fan of the Warp 6 or the guys that make them, show them the door on the race track in a heads-up format. Go get them!

Cool so I can make my own double throwdown, superwamidyne billet head only for my self and run over the class.

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I got one better............why is someone that doesn't race in the Heads Up class even worried about it. Just like earlier when the computer racers started stuff about the Q16 race. Just saying!


GTO George

Cuz im an azzhole and I feal like it, any more questions?

[GTOGEORGE]

NOPE................good enough for me BUT then again I don't race in that Heads Up race.


GTO George

[mgarblik]

"Cool so I can make my own double throwdown, superwamidyne billet head only for my self and run over the class."

Your welding skills and manifolds are works of art, so I would say yes. I don't know how the rules read now, but if the Kaufman's can run essentially "factory experimental" heads, than your own billet design should also be allowed. Only thing left to do is design, cut a set out, and test them. Heads-up means run what you got and hope you have enough. That's why we match race, it's always heads-up.

[johnta1]

Cool so I can make my own double throwdown, superwamidyne billet head only for my self and run over the class.

That's how innovation works. That's how KRE did it with the Warp 6.
No one stepped up, so they did it.

If you think you can do better, then do it, don't try and stifle the competition/innovation.

[GTOGEORGE]

I'm pretty sure KRE didn't come out with the Warp 6 heads just for that heads up class.


GTO George

[Elarson]

Originally Posted by john marcella

Cool so I can make my own double throwdown, superwamidyne billet head only for my self and run over the class.

That would be awesome! Do it!

Eric

[Probird]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

More then run RAV, CV-1, or SD heads!

Fixed it for you Jack.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I'm pretty sure KRE didn't come out with the Warp 6 heads just for that heads up class.


GTO George

Well they didn't bring them out for mass production that's for sure.

[J.C.you]

ban all the aluminums and only run 6xs....anyway didn't a ehead win last go around?

[johnta1]

ban all the aluminums and only run 6xs....anyway didn't a ehead win last go around?

They're just PO'd that they can't get a set.

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by johnta1

They're just PO'd that they can't get a set.

HaHaHa.. .. just wait and see.......

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by johnta1

How many run Warp 6 heads?

just the Kauffman backed/sponsored car. If its not sponsored its clearly backed...

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by Wareagle

If it fits on the Pontiac MR-1 Block - should be allowed - lets keep Pontiac V8 Heads Development going not hold it back

How is limiting availability of the head keeping it going?

[Mikes455Wagon]

Marcella obviously has visions he can get to reality as seen by his manifolds. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one stopping by his pit to check out "Marcella Heads."

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by Mikes455Wagon

Marcella obviously has visions he can get to reality as seen by his manifolds. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one stopping by his pit to check out "Marcella Heads."

LOL, I would love to do it, but I sure as hell would not do it for 1 race a year. Not going to happen this year, maybe never.
Would need a bigger motor to take use of it first.

Its got me thinking though

[Bill Bolin]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but why wouldn't KRE want more of their heads out there and seeing just how fast they could go???? Why spend the money to produce them and then not sell them to certain people?? Why not let those people willing to buy them and work on them and get the WHOLE Pontiac world recognized do so???? I don't get it. Its just like congress, don't let the "other" side get credit for doing something good. The POLITICS in the Pontiac world are worse than women fighting over a pair of shoes. The reason to produce products is to sell them.....if KRE could sell another 10 sets of Warp 6 heads, what is a good enough reason not to? Why not have the heads that won the Heads up class be Warp 6's??? Or the quick 16? Or the Frantic 4? Or sweep all the classes??? Seems the vendetta is holding back where the Pontiac world could go. Can you imagine National Dragster or Yellow Bullet talking about the Pontiac world having several 5 second cars or dominating the heads up classes???? I'm not the CFO of KRE but I would think that if I wanted my business to grow I would want my parts in the best racers hands so they could reach the maximum potential and force the "other" guys to step up their game. Then when the BBC guys (and others) saw what could be done with a Pontiac they would check it out and buy a set too. Maybe somebody would enter them in the Engine Masters Challenge......Who knows where it could lead to. But this petty crap over what has been said and done in the past is just juvenile. Marcella would sell an intake to anyone who would pay for it whether for CV-1, Edelbrock, RAV, or Warp6. In the famous words of Rodney King, "Can't we all get along?". Off my soapbox now.

[johnta1]

I don't get it.

Probably, true.



The heads were/are for sale since they came out.
No one seemed to 'want' a set or willing to pay for them.
Now, all of a sudden they want one?

Give me a break.



None of these so called buyers want one of them, or at least willing to pay what the price is for them.



If they were really interested in them, they would be talking to Jeff and not haranguing their products on thousands of posts here.



I'm sure if they 'Show Him The Money' they would sell a set.
But then they would have to worry about their probably doing the 'special work' to make them unfit for use then blaming them for making garbage products.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Probably, true.



The heads were/are for sale since they came out.
No one seemed to 'want' a set or willing to pay for them.
Now, all of a sudden they want one?

Give me a break.



None of these so called buyers want one of them, or at least willing to pay what the price is for them.



If they were really interested in them, they would be talking to Jeff and not haranguing their products on thousands of posts here.



I'm sure if they 'Show Him The Money' they would sell a set.
But then they would have to worry about their probably doing the 'special work' to make them unfit for use then blaming them for making garbage products.

As I said before Jeff and I talked to Mark at Norwalk and he told us he would have to make 40 sets and it would take years to sell those 40 sets and he had no plans of getting anymore made.

Jeff and I were not joking about buying a set and would have paid the meager $3600 for a bare set! King Kinsler has deep pockets!

And as far as screwing a set up, I don't think Gaby would screw a set up!
I had plans to send a set to him for a max effort nitrous motor for the eighth mile heads up class that I locally run. Where most run high 4.70-5.20s. It would have been nice to get a set and show the Ford and Chevy boys what a Pontiac could do!