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#41
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X2.. just bring it to your machine shop. A couple hours of your time and a few dollars spent to have better threads than you had originally. I reused cometics many times. Or buy the time-sert kit and be ready for the next time.
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If you want a treat....
Put in a set on a bare head, gap them dead nuts on before, then check after . Torque is more scientific, but if you use your head you'll be able to get real close by hand too. The key here is consistency. It's an acquired feel to do it by hand. I've seen guys tighten the hell out of plugs by hand just being general idiots and when you do that you will change the gap on the plug from where you originally gapped it on the toolbox. Try it, you'd be shocked. |
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If you hydraulic the cyl with water, something has to give, head gasket, plug, smash the top ringland or worse. Probably what was going one for a long time. Didn't you have another thread with blown gaskets?
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Yes, thats what I'm saying, wondering if there is a crack somewhere that fills it up? Maybe in the cylinder by water jacket , hell I dunno, but something odd is going on in those two cylinders. I will pull it tomorrow to see if it's blown.
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It's probably not blown, the plug did, since you re-sealed it with a new head gasket.
I would guess you have a small crack in the cyl. or a leaky carb that is putting raw gas in the cyl.
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1963 Cat SD Clone (old school) streeter 1964 GTO post coupe, tripower, 4speed (build) 1965 GTO 389 tripower, 4 speed, driver 1966 GTO dragcar 1966 GTO Ragtop 1969 Tempest ET clone street/strip 1969 GTO Judge RA lll, auto 1969 GTO limelight Conv. 4speed go and show (sold) 1970 GP SSJ 1970 GTO barn find..TLB…390 horse?….yeh, 390 1972 GTO 455 HO, 4 speed, (build) 1973 Grand Safari wagon, 700hp stoplight sleeper 525ci DCI & 609ci LM V head builds Last edited by J.C.you; 10-07-2013 at 08:09 AM. |
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Yea, I am hoping not, How will i know if its cracked, probably wont be able to see it? It will be too fine? I didn't see anything when I had the head off, i looked at it. I am hoping that its just from a new gasket and more pressure and threads that were suspect from the last blow out last year, and with more cranking psi it couldnt hold? I did pop the rad cap this morning and there was no pressure like before so that tells me the head gasket is more than likely fine. Could the head be cracked somewhere? How do u check a aluminum head for cracks? Pressure test it?
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's Last edited by grandville455; 10-07-2013 at 08:48 AM. |
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The #5 and #7 cylinders are next to each other in the engine and in the firing order. If the voltage from the #5 wire is induced into #7 detonation could occur and cause engine damage.
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That's easy enough to change after i get spark plug hole fixed
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Machine shop said that the threads were probably sketchy from last blow out etc, and just couldn't hold the new gasket and more pressure, they said they would repair it for$35 bucks and each hole after for 10.. so I am going to have 5-7 done.
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It's a bitch Darby...
My threads in my Tigers feel a little sloppy before plug gasket sets... I will address any issues while heads are off now. Even though we(racers) don't leave plugs in for a long time to make anti-seize needed IMO.. BUT..I always used anti-seize as a lube to prevent tread wear and a sealer... ![]()
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You can do the repair without pulling the head.I do alot of the ford triton motors with 100% success rate. First you need to make sure both valves are closed. I would remove the rockers off the cylinder you are working on. Next there are many kits out there to do the repair right and permanent so pic one. I bought my kit through Napa auto parts. After the hole is tapped for the new thread sert get a blow gun and an air compressor. On the end of the blow gun I bought a 5/16th brass fitting to screw into the air nozzle and then I attached a long piece of vacuum hose to it and I shove the hose in the cylinder head through the spark plug hole and then blast air into the cylinder and all the chips will come flying out the hole. Remove the vacuum hose and install your insert. I will always put silicone on the threads of the insert so it will seal up good. It should be good to go after that.
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It looks like a tight fit tho for #5 to me? I hate to not get it started straight...
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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if you had your plug hole fixed, you could test by doing a leak down. You would need a leak down tester tho.
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1963 Cat SD Clone (old school) streeter 1964 GTO post coupe, tripower, 4speed (build) 1965 GTO 389 tripower, 4 speed, driver 1966 GTO dragcar 1966 GTO Ragtop 1969 Tempest ET clone street/strip 1969 GTO Judge RA lll, auto 1969 GTO limelight Conv. 4speed go and show (sold) 1970 GP SSJ 1970 GTO barn find..TLB…390 horse?….yeh, 390 1972 GTO 455 HO, 4 speed, (build) 1973 Grand Safari wagon, 700hp stoplight sleeper 525ci DCI & 609ci LM V head builds |
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Darby-
Curious, have you run this problem by Dave at SD? |
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![]() I am not excited about my plugs sticking into chamber tho as slowbird said, I also don't like the thread or I should say lack of thread engagment to hold plug either, machine shop didnt much care for it either. John I emailed Dave and he has never had any blow out, I am the lucky one!... I am going to use some index washers to bring them out that 1/8 or so out of chamber.
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Darby 74 Grandville 2Dr 455 c.i 4550# 2011 1.60 60 ft,7.33@94.55-11.502@117.74 2017, 74 firebird -3600 lbs (all bests) 1.33 60 ft, 6.314@108.39 9.950@134.32 M/T 275/60 ET SS Drag Radial 2023,(Pontiac 505) 1.27 60 ft, 5.97@112.86, 9.48@139.31.... 275/60 Radial Pro's |
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I thought that Time-Serts were used when sealing was necessary, and Heli-Coils were used for dry holes?
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