[gtome]

Yes I have to so something with the hoses!! I also just threw the trans lines in a long time ago to get it on the road. Figured Id bend up and hide some new ones down the road. Just never happened. At the time I was driving and enjoying it a lot (have since moved). I think I finally have the tuned worked out and she runs pretty good. The thing for me living here in Port Orange (Daytona Beach) is that I am really limited to city driving and rarely get it above 45-50 mph because of stoplights/cops/traffic. Mostly short cruises and to local shows etc. SO the function just really isnt able to be there.

I do high end 100% stock factory correct type restos for a living and that is become boring to me, and just want to spice it up a bit. Doesnt have to be crazy or anything.

The reason I am doing something now is that its showing some signs of rust popping out (from being outside a lot down here) so I am taking it in to freshen it up and respray it. New interior and maybe some different wheels. So I may as well pull the engine and redo the bay and engine while im at it.

[gtome]

Originally Posted by b-man

Eye candy that you won't often see under the hood of a Pontiac.

Sold it all to a '62 421 SD owner to go with an old tired overpriced Tri-Power setup for my '64 421 HO.

That is really a good looking piece. Did it fit under a stock hood? I have looked at the Edelbrock dual set up. And actually I think I bought 2 mechanical 4500 series Holley 450's that were new in the box at a swap meet a long time ago....probably around here somewhere.

[b-man]

It did clear the stock hood on my '64 GTO with almost 2-1/2" to spare with no air cleaners.

Repro '63 421 SD Bathtub tunnel ram with a pair of '66 GTO AFBs and home built progressive linkage and fuel lines. Not factory correct but plenty cool looking.

[gtome]

Wow! My rpm and q-jet barely make it!!

I was just looking at the billet valve covers on Butlers site. I like em! I think with my HS 1.65's I have to run tall covers.

[HWYSTR455]

How did you get that battery tray to mount on the passenger side?

Agree on the hose, gotta go.

I ran an Offy 2x4 for a while, liked it, and did make a few take a second look when I popped the hood. I was able to get it to run pretty good, even if some say they don't. Compared to a single 4bbl on a HSD, it was a touch better. You can find them on ebay from time to time, just be sure to get the one to match what ever carbs you want to run. Could even run old school Offy valve covers to match. Think there also used to be a ribbed air cleaner too.

The Edlebrock 2x4 is actually a pretty nice piece, and setup right can run very well.

Can always go with a 'theme', like black & brushed, use black hose ends and stuff, offset it with brushed aluminum pieces. Hide all the wires.

Can look to customs and street rods for 'theme' ideas too.

I'm not a fan of engine or engine bay covers, but it's a thought. Makes the engine stand out nicely if done right.

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[428RA4]

Hey Gary -

Very cool dual quad set up you used to have. How did you go about getting a shot like that with the camera? I will be in the same situation once the dual quad V intake comes back from finishing.

gtome -

I run 1.65 rocker under stock valve covers with extra thick gaskets. Full roller valve train and have no problems.

thanks
mike

[gtome]

Its originally a 6 cyl Tempest, so the battery is factory on the other side.
And thanks for the tip. I though I had to have tall covers to clear.

[b-man]

Originally Posted by 428RA4

Hey Gary -

Very cool dual quad set up you used to have. How did you go about getting a shot like that with the camera? I will be in the same situation once the dual quad V intake comes back from finishing.

gtome -

I run 1.65 rocker under stock valve covers with extra thick gaskets. Full roller valve train and have no problems.

thanks
mike

Took the under hood shot with the inner fender removed.

I had been racing it with no inner fenders, soon after the pic I put them both back on to make the car more street worthy.

[gtome]

Did you also run it with no air filters?

[carbking]

Offenhauser makes a couple of low-rise dual quad intakes that should allow for underhood clearance of a low-profile aircleaner.

One accepts 2 square-bore Carter AFB's (or clones); the other is set up for 2 spread-bore carbs. They built it to run Carter thermoquads, but you can use 2 QJets with the side mount fuel (Chevrolet or Cadillac) if you prefer the QJet over the TQ.

Here is a link to a listing of most of the multicarb intakes that have been produced for Pontiac over the years:

http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Pon...emanifolds.htm

Do your homework BEFORE the purchase, and end up with eye candy that will RUN!

Jon.

[HWYSTR455]

Originally Posted by carbking

Offenhauser makes a couple of low-rise dual quad intakes that should allow for underhood clearance of a low-profile aircleaner.

One accepts 2 square-bore Carter AFB's (or clones); the other is set up for 2 spread-bore carbs. They built it to run Carter thermoquads, but you can use 2 QJets with the side mount fuel (Chevrolet or Cadillac) if you prefer the QJet over the TQ.

Here is a link to a listing of most of the multicarb intakes that have been produced for Pontiac over the years:

http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Pon...emanifolds.htm

Do your homework BEFORE the purchase, and end up with eye candy that will RUN!

Jon.

Nice link! Guess the one I used was a 5499, had the 'ears' cut off the top plates and tig'd to the manifold and planned slightly to ensure it was true. Did that for clearance issues since I have the body dropped to the frame. Think I have some pics somewhere. Progressive linkage, and divorced choke on the front carb, black AFBs. All the early AFBs I tried leaked. And I went through a truck load of them. This was in the 80s, right before AFB changed hands (or maybe just after). Have a pic in the car in one of my albums. I will see if I can post a pic of the modified intake, have to dig it up!

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[gtome]

Awesome! I wish I could afford and run the early cross ram style stuff. Those are super interesting to look at! Maybe I should make one!!

I made an intake for my draw through turbo bug....cant be much harder than that!

[gtome]

How bout this!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/OFFENHAUSER-...81038272022%26

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Doug...2d8f75&vxp=mtr

[carbking]

I haven't checked for awhile, but the last time I checked the Offy cross-ram adapters were still available new.

The problem (depending on the vehicle in question) could be hood clearance; as these raised the carbs (going totally from memory) about 3~4 inches. The Offy's will bolt to most aftermarket dual quad intakes.

Cross-rams do make great eye-candy, but they are much more difficult to properly dial-in, especially for a street car. Driveability issues can be difficult to eliminate on a street engine.

Jon.

[gtome]

Oh yeah im sure they are way hard to get right. I had trouble getting one dialed in!! I bet linkage would be a huge pain too! Maybe cut in 2 small scoops like a 68-70 hood to gain clearance??!!

[b-man]

Originally Posted by gtome

Did you also run it with no air filters?

Sold the entire setup before I had a chance to use it.