[cuz68]

Originally Posted by INJUNTOM

Sure it's not a '91?

I was tould it was a 95? Like i said i have never owned one, Is there a way i can tell what year it is? TKs.

[Engine-Ear]

FWIW, the NAME wagoneer migrated to what became the Cherokee Classic....the Wagoneers I am referring to the full size version, produced between 1963 and 1991.

[Engine-Ear]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

Fortunately the high low transfer case from earlier Wagoneers is a bolt in so it's not that difficult to change over and put hubs on the front axle.

...so are you saying that a guy can convert away from Q-trac if he wants and therefore not have that weak link in the Wagon-chain?

[boater bill]

My 86's had a high/low transfer case as well. I think they were a New Process 262, the 231 was in the wrangler IIRC.

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by Engine-Ear

...so are you saying that a guy can convert away from Q-trac if he wants and therefore not have that weak link in the Wagon-chain?

Yes Matt, The 73 truck I posted above originally had a 360 W/Q trac and when I was done had a 455 Pontiac with a regular transfer case and hubs. Lots less wear and tear on the front end and better fuel mileage. A much better vehicle after I was done with the conversion. If I remember correctly 73 was the first year for Quadratac and it was dropped after 79.

There are various transfer cases which will replace it both early and later depending upon which side the front drive shaft is on, Jeep switched it from right to left, not sure just what year though. Most likely 1980 when they dropped the Q trac.

[Engine-Ear]

Hey thanks for the info, Brad !!!

Since it's gonna the wife's ride, something turn-key from the get-go is a must. Swapping out a Q-trac for locking hubs, etc., etc. is not how I want to begin things. As such, I think we're going after an '80 - '84.

As I am researching these machines, both the changes and the constants are pretty damn interesting. Also interesting is that production peaked between '78 and '79 and continued to fall from then on. Only 1500 were built in 1991, the last year of production.

[Sirrotica]

Matt, they do have selectamatic hubs that you don't have to leave the vehicle and they engage when the 4 WD is engaged, no fuss no muss.

BTW I had a 81 6 cylinder Cherokee Chief (fullsize) and the maze of hoses and wiring under the hood is not user friendly at all. The emission devices were all over the thing. It was a project I bought (fire under the hood) and had good intentions of putting it back on the road but a divorce got in the way and I eneded up giving it to a friend of mine. Be aware also in the 80-84 era the 6 cyl engines had the casting severely lightened as well as nickel content decreased and as a result the cylinders went egg shaped prematurely and wore quickly as well.

[niceta]

I had an 81 woody wagon and loved it. I converted it to propane and added a 3" lift kit and 33" tires. That think would crawl anywhere and do it in comfort. Cadilack of 4X4's. Still a pig on fuel though as they weigh so much. Never had a lick of problem with it.

My Dad had a 72 or 73 and yes the trans case is the weak link. I think he rebuilt the thing 3 times in less than 40k. Real peice of work. They like to rust in the rear wheel well behind the wheel, and yes the rear windows tend to wear out motors.

[INJUNTOM]

Originally Posted by cuz68

I was tould it was a 95? Like i said i have never owned one, Is there a way i can tell what year it is? TKs.

I'm pretty sure '91 was the last year. I do know that there were some of the smaller Cherokee body styles that were called Wagoneers as well, but nothing like the big Wagoneers.

[Me Notyou]

You can find ones that are already modified if you look around. Something that has a mopar engine and an NP208 transfercase would be great. Look for one that has a 727 transmission also. Not going to be great on gas mileage with the 3speed, but it will be unstoppable.

[Ron]

I've got a 1970 Jeep Gladiator J-3000 pickup truck. Neat truck.

[Engine-Ear]

Thanks for the feedback, guys...I am starting a new thread in the Lobby to share a couple of pics of ...of ...our new Wagoneer!