Pontiac - Race The next Level

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-25-2000, 09:29 PM
M.Sides M.Sides is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: originally Odessa, TX. Currently stationed in Tampa, FL
Posts: 35
Default

Hey guys, I've never run an aftermarket oil pan on any of my Pontiacs, but I want to run a 6 or 7 quart oil pan on the 455 I'm building up for street/strip use. Who makes the best pan, Milodon, Moroso, Warrior? Any fit problems in a '68 Lemans?
Thanks...

  #2  
Old 03-25-2000, 09:29 PM
M.Sides M.Sides is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: originally Odessa, TX. Currently stationed in Tampa, FL
Posts: 35
Default

Hey guys, I've never run an aftermarket oil pan on any of my Pontiacs, but I want to run a 6 or 7 quart oil pan on the 455 I'm building up for street/strip use. Who makes the best pan, Milodon, Moroso, Warrior? Any fit problems in a '68 Lemans?
Thanks...

  #3  
Old 03-25-2000, 10:54 PM
Brian Baker's Avatar
Brian Baker Brian Baker is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Glen Burnie, MD USA
Posts: 17,184
Default

Don't know about the others, but I have a Warrior 6-quart pan, and the quality of the fit isn't that great. It's a nice pan, but several of the bolt holes had to be elongated as they weren't drilled correctly.

__________________
Just a blind squirrel looking for a nut.
  #4  
Old 03-26-2000, 10:13 PM
GP-K GP-K is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Dayton (area), Ohio, USA
Posts: 124
Default

M.
I have not tried it, but Butler sells a couple of different higher capacity pans, including one with wings which should fit in the '68 Lemans/GTO chassis. It is rumored that a Poncho will pump the pan dry in a long high speed run. I do not know if that is true, but it can't hurt to have more oil available as long as it does not get whipped into foam by the crank, but thats what windage trays are there to control. Butler also lists a road race pan, but it says it won't fit the GTO chassis, but does not specify what years it won't fit.

Good luck,

K.

__________________
K
  #5  
Old 04-01-2000, 08:42 PM
Cruiser's Avatar
Cruiser Cruiser is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Amanda.Ohio U.S.A.
Posts: 344
Default

I have run deep sump pans- (bad on the street) & I have used the warrior pan. I am now running a Canton pan from Jim Butler on my last 2 hot pontiacs that see some street duty.The capacity is large & ground clearance is the same as stock ,They have a kickout at the sides for the extra capacity,however there is not any problem with clearance I run the large tube headers & still have plenty of room.An added bonus is theat the pan is gold irridated for a more durable finish,The pan fit to the block was great my engine builder now orders them for all of the pontiacs he builds.

  #6  
Old 04-04-2000, 09:04 PM
Will Will is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Pugetopolis
Posts: 5,297
Default

That Canton pan sounds just like my Milodon Roadrace pan. Only I wouldn't say the milodon has "kickouts" to the sides, it's more like the sump just comes straight down from the pan rails instead of tapering inwards like the stock pan does. Plent of room for starter and headers, a 7qt. capacity, and great baffling that keeps the oil pressure up even when autocrossing and attacking those long freeway onramps. There's a picture of it on my engine on this web page, just scroll to the bottom:
http://www.geocities.com/willhbaker/...hortblock.html

__________________
----------------------------
'72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car!
'73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match.
  #7  
Old 04-05-2000, 12:29 AM
Old Man Taylor's Avatar
Old Man Taylor Old Man Taylor is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Escondido, CA, USA
Posts: 6,944
Default

My Canton kicks out on the driver's side only. I liked the idea of more ground clearance. However, I can't even remove the mini-starter without either taking the header off (which I don't think I can maneuver with the starter in place), or I have to remove the trans, converter and flex plate. When the engine comes out, or the starter konks out, I will replace it with something where the starter can still drop out.


------------------
Jim

  #8  
Old 04-05-2000, 12:43 AM
Skip Fix's Avatar
Skip Fix Skip Fix is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Katy,TX USA
Posts: 20,661
Default

My Milodon can drop the starter easily and has alot of baffling. Their pickup was a little close on the bottom. The bolt that comes with the pickup doesn't fit ANY pump I have.

I contrast I am putting together a motor now with the 77-up TA pan and the Mellings pick up is almost 3/4 of an inch from the bottom! The price on this pan jumped from a little over $100 last year to over $200 this year. Tack in a baffle and trap door underneath it's flat baffle and you have a decent street cornering pan. Kind of like the old HO modified pan but I extended the baffle further in front because my HO pan would drop a little pressure on a quick stop box in autocrossing and its baffle didn't go all the way across.

__________________
Skip Fix
1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever!
1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand
1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project
2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4
1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project
1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs
  #9  
Old 04-07-2000, 09:15 PM
M.Sides M.Sides is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: originally Odessa, TX. Currently stationed in Tampa, FL
Posts: 35
Default

Thanks for the info guys. It's great that we can use this site this way so that we can reward companies that make quality products by sending them more business.

  #10  
Old 04-07-2000, 10:04 PM
Rocky Rotella's Avatar
Rocky Rotella Rocky Rotella is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 2,687
Default

I know Nunzi carries a variety of extended quart oil pans. I almost purchased one, but I have heard a lot of good things about them. They look stock too.

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:20 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017