Pontiac - Race The next Level

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-23-2002, 11:02 PM
MSilva's Avatar
MSilva MSilva is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: CT
Posts: 78
Default

With all the tracks starting to mandate mufflers on race day, I was wondering what everyone is using? Also, what kind of performance or ET loss did you get by adding the mufflers?

__________________
It's a race car, if it was easy everyone would have one!!!!!
  #2  
Old 03-23-2002, 11:02 PM
MSilva's Avatar
MSilva MSilva is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: CT
Posts: 78
Default

With all the tracks starting to mandate mufflers on race day, I was wondering what everyone is using? Also, what kind of performance or ET loss did you get by adding the mufflers?

__________________
It's a race car, if it was easy everyone would have one!!!!!
  #3  
Old 03-23-2002, 11:11 PM
Goatman Goatman is offline
On Vacation
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: North Dighton, MA
Posts: 3,665
Default

I use Race Magnums. Not sure they'll pass noise tech, never ran the car without them. I am a believer in muffler technology and I also believe that you can get a car to run just as fast with mufflers as without if you do your homework.

10.62 @ 128 3500lbs

  #4  
Old 03-23-2002, 11:50 PM
jack gaydosh jack gaydosh is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: baltimore md
Posts: 258
Default

I have used Vortec cone insert mufflers for three years. They have passed nhra tech at national and divisional events. They had no problem passing the 95 decibel ruleas measured on the "a" scale froma distance of 50 feet,at a right angle to the vehicle,with the vehicle at no-load rpm of 3500. Many other good mufflers out their. Good luck to everybody and have a safe season jack gaydosh

__________________
2000 N/A PONTIAC FIREBIRD
www.gaydoshperformance.com
  #5  
Old 03-24-2002, 12:53 AM
Torment's Avatar
Torment Torment is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: superior,WI USA
Posts: 1,873
Default

I've run the same back to back with Race Magnums-very loud.

__________________
The secret to happiness is not getting what you want but rather, wanting what you have.
  #6  
Old 03-24-2002, 01:02 AM
Jack Ferris's Avatar
Jack Ferris Jack Ferris is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: West Jordan UT
Posts: 2,862
Default

Soo, with the race Magnum are you bolting them directly to the header or are you using a length of pipe and mounting them to that?

__________________
Jack Ferris
RestoRacing LLC
www.restoracing.com
Sandy, UT
---------------------------------------------------
  #7  
Old 03-24-2002, 09:23 AM
Goatman Goatman is offline
On Vacation
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: North Dighton, MA
Posts: 3,665
Default

I have an 18", 3.5" diameter collector that opens up to 4". The Race Magnum is welded to that, and then I have a 4" turndown welded to the end.

  #8  
Old 03-24-2002, 09:59 AM
PONTIAC DUDE's Avatar
PONTIAC DUDE PONTIAC DUDE is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: West Central Florida
Posts: 14,756
Default

I run 2 Chamber 3.5" Flowmasters. They are really freakin loud, especially when I have the 3" tailpipes hooked up.. LOL
A lot of the other car mags do muffler test and use ET and DB tests. Check them out. Also depends on your current ET's as some mufflers will offer no power loss/super quiet at 12 sec, but really restrict in the 8/9's/10's.

  #9  
Old 03-24-2002, 03:05 PM
Torment's Avatar
Torment Torment is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: superior,WI USA
Posts: 1,873
Default

In my experience you do not want to bolt them directly to the collector. I did that and chased a huge stumble when going to WOT for the better part of day before I realized it was the friggin' mufflers [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] Put 2 feet of 3" pipe off the collector in front of them and no problems. I have them turned out to exit in front of the rear wheels. Blows the dust off the street for ya [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

[ March 24, 2002: Message edited by: Torment ]</p>

__________________
The secret to happiness is not getting what you want but rather, wanting what you have.
  #10  
Old 03-24-2002, 03:36 PM
tempest455's Avatar
tempest455 tempest455 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hendersonville, TN
Posts: 2,145
Default

We made some back to back runs on a mid 10 second car last season with and without the mufflers. Like Pontiac Dude, this car also had 3.5" 2 chamber Flowmasters but with no tail pipes. The Flowmasters were side in straight out. Apparently, the side in are more restrictive. We made 4-5 runs with the exhaust closed and 2-3 open. The car only picked up .07. Hardly worth the effort on this car. Possibly jetting up may have helped but we just wanted to see what the change was open. IMHO, it actually sounded better with the mufflers on!

__________________
Tempest455
  #11  
Old 03-24-2002, 03:53 PM
MACNICOLRACING's Avatar
MACNICOLRACING MACNICOLRACING is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: north port,fl
Posts: 200
Default

When I changed my heads the car picked up over 1/2 sec. I then put on 3.5 race Flowmasters(offset due to the chassis) the car slowed down .2 tenths from open headers. I now run a set of Dynomax bullets with a set of Borla XR1's(4") the car is extreamly quiet. At the time it ran 10.42 open headers and 10.41 with the Dynomax/Borla combo(40lbs. in weight?). The bullets act as a resonator and really help reduce the noise.

__________________
1969 Firebird NHRA S/ST
  #12  
Old 03-24-2002, 09:19 PM
yournose yournose is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: reading, pa
Posts: 28
Default

I use THRUSH glass packs, 32" long. Could not be happier.

  #13  
Old 03-24-2002, 09:20 PM
yournose yournose is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: reading, pa
Posts: 28
Default

I use THRUSH glass packs, 32" long. Could not be happier. Straight through.......in-out, history.

  #14  
Old 03-25-2002, 09:17 AM
PONTIAC DUDE's Avatar
PONTIAC DUDE PONTIAC DUDE is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: West Central Florida
Posts: 14,756
Default

A buddy of mine runs the Dyno max mufflers also and they are a lot quieter and he loves em. Fit's in a tighter place too.
David, you know Cecil with my ole engine, and his car ran 10.0's with them weighing over 3500 lbs. Actually street legal and quiet too.

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:34 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017