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Also, rivnuts and thread-sert have different inserts for different materials' thickness. They only compress so far, so you have to make sure you use the correct insert for the job.
Generic ones usually have a wider range of compression, and are in some cases not intended for higher loads. For critical apps, you have to use the most optimal insert. .
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Difference between a Thread-sert & Rivnut tool:
Blue = 'plyer type tool' Red = 'Long arm type tool' .
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Make sure you have a bolt in the hole before you start pinning. .
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The rivnuts I mention & show in that other thread are steel from fastenal, they have a thin flange to avoid problems with the bracket.
Im not sure of the size of a 64gto sway bar bolt but if they are the common 3/8 size used on most 70's cars they use a standard 9/16 drill bit for the hole, they can also be installed with the bolt/washer/nut set up as shown in the vid links posted in that thread. Reaching in from the front of the frame may be an option but removing the bumper or nose on some cars is a lot of work... and some cars you cant get a wrench in the frame to hold a bolt. Use a good rivnut and whatever tool you prefer but the bolt/nut tool works great, just gotta be sure you tighten the rivnut to compress it fully. The other suggestions will work too, rivnuts just seem to be the easiest option. |
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I knew a guy that had nothing but trouble with this. I believe that he kept making the hole too large or oval’ed out. So he ended up welding a stud to the frame.
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Will stand by: Be SURE to use the correct size drill bit for the rivnut you use, from the same manufacturer. .
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Fastenal also recommends a 17/32 drill size:
https://www.fastenal.com/product/details/0125626 https://www.fastenal.com/content/pro....RFH.YZ.06.pdf .
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Some sources say 3/8 rivnuts use a 9/16 hole, some say 17/32 yet some say its a range of size depending on how tight you want the nutsert in the hole and that its best to measure the OD of the rivnut to determine size as they can vary. When I asked the guy behind the counter at fastenal what size drill bit for the rivnut I bought, he blurted out 9/16 without hesitation, but the fastenal link does say 17/32. If it does require a 17/32 drill bit, general purpose ones are like $5-6 and easy to find at common home stores or hardware stores so thats not really a big deal. https://yardandgardenguru.com/nutsert-drill-size-chart/ |
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It's an interesting feeling when you throw your car hard into a corner, and the front sway bar decides to stop working lol
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The last subframe i built the bolt hole threads were good but i still dropped in from the inside of the frame grade 8 allen head bolts torqued and loctited them in and used grade 8 nylock nuts to finish the 1.1/4 bar and poly bushings off with..... A bit of finesse and work but a lifetime of knowing there after no loose inserts no pulled threads nothing but confidence
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I've made thick plates with both holes for sway bar. Then tack welded them in place with sub frame off.
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You will have to remove the Front Bumper to do the job correctly. If you install something WRONG you can't blame the hardware used or the parts used. Never had an issue with the HO Racing "BIG FRONT BAR" WHEN you install the proper parts correctly using the proper tools. Been on the car for many years without an issue. I have a spare 1-1/4 bar if someone need one. Tom V.
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Local fab shop is gonna put threaded plate where the holes are. Apparently this is a problem with Factory stock jeeps
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Hope their "fix" will do the job for you at the end of the day.
Tom V.
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I didn’t think of this idea. I called our local fab shop thinking it would be $$$$$. He said that they had actually done this quite a few times just not on a 64 Pontiac. I will be Autocrossing a little in Clemson and I was mostly concerned about a failure.
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Local Jeep fab shop drilled out the holes one size bigger, dropped bolts down thru the frame and tacked the bolts in place for 15 bucks. Now I have sway bar studs LOL. Just gotta put it back on
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Good to hear, but what's going on with your power steering issue?
We have not heard a peep about that in 2 weeks.
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On the 64 frame horns, is there an access hole to tack them? Maybe a bumper bolt pass-thru?
Just curious. .
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Yes there is an access hole. Belt squeal stopped with a new belt just like magic.
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I did the same on my TA. It's rock solid.
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