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71-72 TA for sale
Seeing a few TA for sale lately.
These are complete running cars in the 25-40k range. One would think these would be bought quickly, and that doesn't seem to be the case. I've seen then on FB and then listed on eBay. Yet, some 77-78 TA are for sale for more? Maybe the market is slow for 71-72 with good buy time? Any thoughts?
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The late 2nd gens have been hot at auction the last couple years. A lot of promotion with Burt Reynolds and the 40th of the "Bandit". Seems like the early 2nds kind of skipped that bubble, but the super rare/nice ones are trading hands in private collections at high $, just not being seen as much in the public eye? Good question, should spark some discussion.
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Bandit TA,s are eye candy, but performance is pitiful. The 70-73,s are really so much better cars. Hard to believe values are close at all. I still don't think the non bandits are bank breakers. Have had several late model ta,s, never got over 23k for any of them. All low mile original cars. Most under 20k.
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As for the '71, '72 T/As, I think there are usually so many to choose from at a given time, that it may dilute the prices. I would still take a '70 - '72 T/A over a '77 or '78, given the choice. |
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Without high performance and matching numbers are out of the equation. I can't explain the trends in this hobby?
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Mike/Illinois |
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That's because prices are based on the whims of big money at auctions and whether the lemmings choose to follow that money. It's more about human psychology than anything else.
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My personal opinion is that the 70-73 cars have been out of reach for many in the hobby that we gloss right over them knowing we can’t afford them. I think the money of the baby boomers is getting less and less and the trend will continue on all of it. There’s a big gap coming for car lovers of the 80s and 90s due to rusty junk and government buy backs. I’m 53 and I’m not into any of them except a 98-02 Bird and they are just ok. After 82 there are no cars for the Pontiac Purists. Maybe that makes 70-73 Birds worth more or maybe less
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There's a nice looking 76 Y82 455/4-spd, no T-tops coming up at the next Mecum auction. It's in the "no reserve" group. I'll be interested to see what that goes for. I would enjoy owning it!
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A nice "before the Burt" car 76 455/4 speed performance beast? Nice on eyes? What's nice about it?
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Mike/Illinois |
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What I just said was nice about it. It's nice looking. Simple English, shouldn't be too hard to understand.
John |
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So, you're going on purely looks to spend 50k? That's your logic...ok
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-26...c-trans-am-se/
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Mike/Illinois |
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A guy wanted to trade me a 50th 455 4 speed T-top car and 10k for my SD Formula... I declined.. He thought his car was worth 65k....
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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what a buffoon!
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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It seems like the car market is slow regardless of price and car. Robust economy and tax cuts looming will boost the car market?
Yet the parts market is still growing...
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Mike/Illinois |
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A W72, WS6 4 speed 78 is a great car and in a performance league with any 73 non SD TA, and will outhandle any 70-73 TA.
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Well, that explains it. Thanks
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Mike/Illinois |
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Wow.......Radial Tuned Suspension.
Last edited by Norwood; 12-15-2017 at 04:52 PM. |
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Looking through Mecum Auction results, the 1977-1979 Trans Ams are in the $10K - $20K range, and many times they don't meet reserve. Buyers also don't care much about whether it's a 400 or 403, values are fairly equal between the two.
The 1976-1981 Special Edition cars are roughly double the price of non-SE cars, selling in the $25K - $50K range, with a few exceptions getting more. The 1979 Trans Am 10th Anniversary cars and Macho T/A's are similar in price to the Special Edition models. 1971-1972 Trans Ams are in the $40K - $60K range, and the 1970 models are slightly higher, with premiums paid (sometimes double) for RAIV cars. Mike
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I agree on the W72,WS6 TA's being great cars but stock for stock the 73 Y code 455 T/A is the better performer.The 78 WS6 TA gives up 30HP and 50LB's of torque to the 73 D port TA.Rear end ratio 3.23 for the 78WS6 and 3.42 for the 73TA.As for as handling goes both cars have the same diameter front sway bar.The 73TA has a larger .875 rear vs .750 sway bar.You could also get radial tires on the 73TA.Everybody has there opinion but by the numbers 73 gets the win.
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I think it's good news that late 2nd generation cars are bringing good money. I bet most of the people who buy those cars are new to the hobby.
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