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Old 06-05-2015, 11:16 PM
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I took the day off today and decided to drop the top on the Judge clone and go for a ride. The wife asked me to make my trip useful and stop to pick up a pizza at the grocery store for lunch on my way home. I always park a fair distance away from other cars in the grocery store lot, and when I walked out of the store I could see a truck parked near my car and a camera being held out the window. As I got closer, the gentleman driving the truck asked me if the car was mine and complemented me on the appearance. We talked for a moment and then he began to tell me about the kid he knew in high school whose mom bought him a brand new Judge coupe after the passing of his dad who was a firefighter killed in the line of duty. He went on to explain that it was orange, just like mine and had the 389 tri-power with a 4 speed. When I asked him which owner did the engine swap, he adamantly stated that it was the original engine because his mother bought it brand new for the boy in 1974. At that point, I knew that the best way to participate in the conversation was with my mouth shut.

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:38 PM
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Was it the one with the factory supercharger under the hood? My cousin's best friend's sister's hairdresser had one back in 68 but she totaled it.

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:52 PM
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Was it the one with the factory supercharger under the hood? My cousin's best friend's sister's hairdresser had one back in 68 but she totaled it.
This! ^^^^

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Old 06-06-2015, 03:21 PM
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Was it the one with the factory supercharger under the hood? My cousin's best friend's sister's hairdresser had one back in 68 but she totaled it.
Check this out - quoted you here ==> http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...&postcount=162

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Old 06-07-2015, 10:01 AM
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Check this out - quoted you here ==> http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...&postcount=162
hah! thanks man.

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Old 06-07-2015, 11:58 AM
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"That's a 350 right?" while looking at the 6.5 Litre trunk emblem.
No, Grand Ams only came with a 400 or a 455.
"So you could only get the big-block then?"

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Old 06-07-2015, 01:43 PM
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I love the "Is that a big block?" question. I sometimes says no it's 2 4s welded together.

As some of the guys with the 67 wire mesh in there 66 grills can attest too, we get some really going nuts thinking we have a 66/67 GTO.... 67 front end and 66 rear. Sure makes em do some walkin and talkin for a while. LOL

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Old 06-05-2015, 11:40 PM
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My favorites are: (I've really heard these)

(After I told him the engine's a 400) "I thought so - that engine's way too big to be the 326."

Him: "Is that car a 1976?" Me: "You're way off, it's a '65." Him:"That's right: Pontiacs all looked the same between those years. "

Him: "your LeMans has GTO tail lights, huh?" Me: "no - in 1965, the GTO had LeMans tail lights." Him: "No - the LeMans light had a different number of fins. "

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Old 06-06-2015, 06:11 AM
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My favorites are: (I've really heard these)

(After I told him the engine's a 400) "I thought so - that engine's way too big to be the 326."

Him: "Is that car a 1976?" Me: "You're way off, it's a '65." Him:"That's right: Pontiacs all looked the same between those years. "

Him: "your LeMans has GTO tail lights, huh?" Me: "no - in 1965, the GTO had LeMans tail lights." Him: "No - the LeMans light had a different number of fins. "
I don't know if this is true or not but I did read in one of mt GTO Identification books that the 65's did have a different number of fins for the GTO's and the Lemans.

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Old 06-06-2015, 08:12 AM
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I don't know if this is true or not but I did read in one of mt GTO Identification books that the 65's did have a different number of fins for the GTO's and the Lemans.
Tempest is different.

GTO and Lemans are the same (GTO is an option based off the Lemans package).

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Old 06-06-2015, 08:12 AM
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I don't know if this is true or not but I did read in one of mt GTO Identification books that the 65's did have a different number of fins for the GTO's and the Lemans.
You might be thinking of the Tempest Custom tail panel. In 1965 the GTO was an option package on the LeMans. As such, all of the trim and interior is identical between them with the exception of the GTO badging replacing the LeMans badges (and the deletion of the chrome spears).

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Old 06-06-2015, 08:13 AM
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Ohhhhhh! Keith treed me!

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Old 06-06-2015, 08:20 AM
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I found out the 302 in my 69 z28 is actually a Ford engine, Chevy never made a 302. Also the guy had a friend who owned a z28 convertible. I asked him if it was a 4 speed or automatic.

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Old 06-06-2015, 09:27 AM
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I also love it when folks ask me what is under the hood. If they seem oblivious to Pontiac trivia at that point of the conversation, I'll just tell them it's a 469. I have been told "those were good motors", and of course, I have gotten the usual "oh, its the big block" and "isn't that a truck motor" when I mention 455. Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoy talking with folks about the car, it just gets rather amusing at times. Being the type of person who likes to mess with people, it gets really hard to hold my tongue.

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Old 06-06-2015, 12:14 PM
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I don't know if this is true or not but I did read in one of mt GTO Identification books that the 65's did have a different number of fins for the GTO's and the Lemans.
That's from Paul Zazarines's GTO Buyers Guide. He says the GTO received 6 rib tail lights and the Lemans 10. He just needed to change Lemans to Tempest to correct it. Books were gospel before the Internet

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Old 06-06-2015, 06:44 AM
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Nothing like those 1 of none cars people used to own....

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Old 06-06-2015, 09:19 AM
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Nothing like those 1 of none cars people used to own....
I thought they were rare prototypes & everybody use to have one .

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I try not to get caught up in all of it. I lived in the era, but I'm not an expert like some of the folks around here.

I do try to humor folks when they ask questions or make know-it-all statements about my TA. I was out a few weeks back and a guy pulled up next to me at a stoplight. He comlimented the car, for which I thanked him. Then he said he owned a 77 SD back in the day. "First year for that hood bird", he said. I smiled and said, well actually there were no SD's in 77, and 73 was the first year for the bird. He gave me an all-knowing smirk and said, you sure about that? Thankfully the light changed.

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Old 06-11-2015, 10:09 PM
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I try not to get caught up in all of it. I lived in the era, but I'm not an expert like some of the folks around here.

I do try to humor folks when they ask questions or make know-it-all statements about my TA. I was out a few weeks back and a guy pulled up next to me at a stoplight. He comlimented the car, for which I thanked him. Then he said he owned a 77 SD back in the day. "First year for that hood bird", he said. I smiled and said, well actually there were no SD's in 77, and 73 was the first year for the bird. He gave me an all-knowing smirk and said, you sure about that? Thankfully the light changed.
Lemme guess - was he driving a Duster or Demon and look kinda like this guy below?

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Old 06-06-2015, 06:51 AM
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How about WOW that's a great idea to put a speedometer on the hood on my 72 GTO

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