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Paid a visit to the GM Heritage Center
If you have questions about your car, I may be able to tell you what I found. My main interest was to learn more about stick shift cars but may be able to help with other stuff.
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In the 1980 G-body model year, you could still get the 350 C.I. sbc from the factory in the station wagons and El Caminos. Is that true?
Doug
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All it will show is "LeMans" and an option total. If you give me the option code, that will help
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Can you look up Grand Am's if so how many V6 G/A's got made in 1979. Also how many had sticks or auto trans. Thanks, Tracy
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For the LeMans (which includes the Grand Am), 453 had 4-speeds in 1979. 207 had 3-speed manual.
For the V6, 789 had the LC6, while 65,125 had the LD5. |
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I may have to eat my words, as I have another doc that may help.
If you give me the body code for the G/A, it'll help a lot. |
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2 door Grand Am is 2G27
Division: 2 = Pontiac Series code: G = Grand Am Body Style code: 27= 2 door (if 19 = 4 door) After Body Style is the engine code: Y= 301 2 brl W= 301 4 brl U = 305 2 brl H = 305 4 brl A = 3.8 Buick PHS for 79 Grand Am with a 301/4brl 4 speed has the codes: L37 for the 301 MM4 for the 4 speed It would be really nice to know for sure how many had the 4 speed manual, 3 speed manual trans and how many had the Buick 3.8 and even the Chevy 305. |
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I'm going down the list and organizing, and it seems earlier years are coming first. I'll eventually report back with anything new.
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I've heard of a dozen or so 78-79 Grand Ams with the U code 305 (2bbl),
But never, ever heard of any with the 4 bbl 305. Either it was a seldom checked option, or unavailable outside of California + high altitude states. |
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Here's something to whet your appetite till I get to the later cars.
1979 Grand Am AG19 231-2 154 305-4 51 301-2 715 301-4 945 Does that total 1865? AG27 231-2 212 305-4 62 301-2 1268 301-4 2478 231-2 (LC6, not sure how it's different to the LD5 above)...just one built! Does that total 4021? |
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Wow! 231 equipped coupe is a one of one. Tracy, is that the car you had/have?
I briefly corrisponded with the owner of a '79 w/231 a decade ago on the GrandAmRegistry website. Said car resided in northern Indiana at the time. That was the first I'd ever heard of a V6 2nd gen Grand Am. Even more surprising is that total V6 production was 37% more than 4bbl 305. <edit> I just noticed there are no 305 2bbls listed in that breakdown. Maybe that was a '78 only engine. Diego, can you come up with the same breakdown for 1978? Last edited by Lightfoot; 09-25-2013 at 11:49 PM. |
#12
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No, read again.
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I don't know if I have 1978. Will get to it eventually. |
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OK, I must have missed that. Late at night, and my eyes were playing tricks on me I guess.
That means 231 production was more than triple that of 305. Remarkable. I'd like to see the number of bench seat coupes, or full vinyl top for 1978 GA, but I suspect that would be like 'splitting hairs'. |
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Here's 1978 Grand Am:
305-2 AG19: 221 AG27: 433 301-2 AG19: 1332 AG27: 2974 301-4 AG19: 1288 AG27: 4360 You Grand Am folks, please check the totals and see if they correspond to their respective published data. |
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Thanks for all of the data for these. All of the numbers add up to what I have seen.
Do you have any way of determining manual transmissions and the break down for the 1980? Thanks for taking the time to put this together.. |
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As I continue to organize, I will let you know.
But my guess is tranny production by engine is not in the data I have. |
#17
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Here's some more 1979 stuff:
Power glass sunroof: 289 350-4 motor: 120 3-speed manual: 207 4-speed manual: 453 AM/FM with CB: 77 AM/FM Stereo with CB: 541 Rally Gauges and Tach: 2212 |
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Back in 1979, our next door neighbors, who were an elderly couple, bought a new 1979 Grand Prix SJ, two tone red. At the time, my brother had just taken delivery of his special ordered 1979 Trans Am Special Edition 400 4-speed. After a month or so, the couple next door asked if I could cut their grass while they were on vacation. When I went into their garage to get their lawn mower, I noticed their Grand Prix was a 4-speed! I was a bit stunned, because the couple were both recently retired, and this was the wife's car, who appeared very reserved and conservative (but their daughter, who was around 25-ish at the time, was smokin' hot, and the talk of the subdivision). About a month later, the mom asked if I could look at a noise she felt was coming from under the hood (squeaking belt). I was again stunned to see a Pontiac V8 (301), and I don't recall if it was a 4-barrel or 2-barrel. Didn't think much of it at the time, but now realize how rare that was. Diego, I take it the "350-4" number were the diesels?
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Option LM1, if that helps. I don't think it was a Diesel.
Also, 233 4-speed Grand Prixs built in 1979. |
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Can you give me the production numbers for an 86 Grand Prix? T-Tops, 305 V8, 4 speed overdrive auto, and bucket seats. I sure miss that car. Somewhere I read that like 3% of Grand Prixs had T-Tops.
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