FAQ |
Members List |
Social Groups |
Calendar |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
THE LOBBY A gathering place. Introductions, sports, showin' off your ride, birthday-anniversary-milestone, achievements, family oriented humor. |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
||||
|
||||
how can you tell if she shipped with rally ii's or honeys? 74 T/A
74 Trans Am
__________________
Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
With it being a TA, I don't think you can except with the build sheet?
An original windowsticker may have it but would have to go through my pics.
__________________
John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
#3
|
||||
|
||||
/\ I have understood this to be correct.
Does PHS even have this? I know that for Canadian cars, all the RPO's (no charge and optional) associated with a vehicle are on the file - so VVS can get them - but I don't think that PHS has this level of information recorded. EDIT: a Canadian ordered car will show Z49 on the PHS.
__________________
1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
PHS only shows the optional options (upgrades)
Z49 is for Canadian base charges, I doubt I have very many Bird invoices from them. Some of the window stickers I did look at didn't show Honeycombs, but not sure on some of them if the originals.
__________________
John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
#5
|
||||
|
||||
I don't know if it helps or not ...
My '72 Lemans PHS specifically states: "HONYCOMB WLS" and yes, it is spelled that way. I do not know what two years later on TA's would show. Ogre
__________________
“Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants.” -- Benjamin Franklin - (1706-1790) US Founding Father |
#6
|
||||
|
||||
The TA had the wheels as standard whether Rally II or Honeycomb, the Formula would show on PHS as the wheels were not standard equipment.
The LeMans/Tempest were probably extra cost wheels, the GTO though may have either as standard? (didn't check this though)
__________________
John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
The Following User Says Thank You to johnta1 For This Useful Post: | ||
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
On the T/A's of this era, it's going to take viewing the wheel box code on the original buildsheet to know how originally equipped.
__________________
Buzzards gotta eat... same as worms. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
No cost alternate at least from 71-74 TA , R2 or Hcomb .
The window sticker side bar will word one or the other as standard equipment , but its not an indicator. Same thing with Transmission choice in that era , on TA Whoever ordered the car , had the choices at no extra cost to the car. |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Agreed, my 1971 Trans Am (sold new in Ontario Canada) did not show the wheels on the PHS, but the GM of Canada Vintage Vehicle Services info lists option N98 "WHEEL: RALLY II ROAD"
" Quote:
|
#10
|
||||
|
||||
options
Did you mean this document?
__________________
Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
#11
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
#12
|
||||
|
||||
I think the code for Honeycomb would be P05 when ordered.
__________________
John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
#13
|
||||
|
||||
Of course, if you have rims on there already, reading the dates may help prove they are originals.
__________________
So long, farewell. |
#14
|
||||
|
||||
Unfortunately no, she has dang American racing wheels. I have a set of 74 rally ii's in stock from my old car but a guy wanted to trade me for Honeys which I prefer but they are missing rings/caps.
I think I'll wait and save my money for aftermarket Honeys and hope they are lighter than factory units unless something else comes along.
__________________
Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Oversize aftermarket Honeys usually destroy the ride comfort of older cars unless you get modern fast action $u$pen$ion upgrades in unison.
Certain years of TA's did not get rings on their Honeys But I forgot the protocol |
#16
|
||||
|
||||
I've definitely heard that BVZ.
I'm researching sus options and it will likely be out of reach anyways...
__________________
Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
#17
|
||||
|
||||
@buzzo;
I get it; I liked the honeycomb wheels too; This is why I ran them on the ‘73 Formula I had. The weight difference between HC & RII wheels might be surprising; Were I in your situation I would go for RII’s before HC…
__________________
1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
#18
|
||||
|
||||
I hear you but like my dodge buddy says I'm all flash and nobody is running them around here/so nice.
I ran rally ii's on the two old birds forever and I need a change! Still at the dreaming stage however. 😑
__________________
Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
#19
|
||||
|
||||
incase proof was wanted...
__________________
1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
#20
|
||||
|
||||
looks smart
__________________
Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
Reply |
|
|