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Old 04-08-2016, 09:45 AM
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Default 571 build-dyno-and installed

Build by Tony Bischoff at BES.
New MR-1 block and 4.750 Ohio crank.


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Pistons, rods, and starting machine work.


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Short block assembly


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Custom solid roller per Tony's specs. Used with 1.65 rockers.


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Edelbrock round port heads. These started as Kauffman ported heads for a previous 455 that flowed 330 cfm. They were still in fine shape after the 455 blew. Tony wanted to work them some more for the new engine. A lot of time spent porting and reshaping the combustion chambers got them to 360 cfm. Was cheaper to improve these for the time being, rather than go with a set of Tiger heads. However Tiger heads may be in the near future.


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Victor intake. Tony reworked the intake quite a bit. Some changes done to actually kill some bottom end torque. Sounds counter productive but this is a small tire street car.


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Finally!

Kauffman "D" port heads?

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Cool build! Thanks for sharing.

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Sweet ride! Excellent job. I really dig the look of your car. What were the final dyno numbers? What kind of track times are you seeing?

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How much stall do you think it needs? What tires do you run at track and on the street?

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I need to talk to Continental and give them the specs again but my guess around 3200, I do more street driving. I have 295's M/T drag radials on there.

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What are the fittings on the side of the intake-N2Os? Or vacuum for street stuff like PB?

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Cool build.

What compression?

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10.84 comp.

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Can't wait to hear what Continental recommends for a converter. That should be an interesting conversation...you've got a 571 Pontiac?

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Can't wait to hear what Continental recommends for a converter. That should be an interesting conversation...you've got a 571 Pontiac?
Doesn't everyone? Lol!

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Sweet build. Same shortblock as in my 65. Gotta love the torque of the 4.75 arm.

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That 571 would be an ideal candidate for a 3.25 or even a bit taller gear.

Mountains of torque.

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