[Jeff Kinsler]

What is the fastest car anyone knows of with a rpm intake manifold? I went a 10.41 @ 130.53 wed. nite at cecil county. I cant believe it pulled that much mph. Does anyone think a different intake will pick the car up? Its a 468,#16's,rpm intake,1 inch spacer,830 carb (pro systems rebuilt),turbo 350,3.55 gears,4400 10 inch converter. Car weighs 3420 with me.

68 Firebird 468
#16 D-Ports w RPM intake
Street Car
10.47 @ 129.21
150 shot soon

[Bud Lyons]

I was at Cecil Wed nite. The mans car does NOT have NOS. I did not see any of his runs or his timeslips. It is one badass firebird though. Like he said come to Atco and lay down some cash.

Money talks, Bull**** walks.



My Rig's a little old, but that don't mean she's slow.

[6567GTO]

No nitrous at all. I pitted two cars over. You have an absolutely beautiful car Jeff.


http://home.earthlink.net/~uptons1/ <~~some pics of my 65 GTO

[Lloyd-TX]

here I go hijacking another thread!

MRDAN7:

I realize that I'm comparing "apples to oranges" concerning my engine's ignition lead vs. badbird68's low 10 second ride, but here's what I've found so far on mine. On the engine dyno, we tried 30, 32, 34 and 36 degrees total, and best pulls were with 32 degrees. Mine isn't locked, BTW - 10 degrees inital and 22 c/shaft degrees mechanical advance, all in at 2800 RPM. I do believe, by looking at your e-mail to me, that ny combo is VERY similar to yours in your GTO, though I'm running more displacement. I've only made 10 passes so far at the track, but I did want to experiment a little with total lead. I baselined the car with 32 degrees, then made two passes at 34 degrees. The car ran darn near identical 60's, ET and MPH, so I reset it back to 32 - my engine is prolly on the ragged edge of detonation since I'm running 93 octane pump fuel. It was dynoed on 93 octane fuel also.

FYI, here's the "SHORT" list on my Formula combination:

4.200 bore 455 (467 CID)
JE pistons, zero decked block, small dome (can't recall the dome volume), calculated comp ratio 9.98:1
Ported 7F6 heads, flowed 276/176 CFM @ 28" on a well calibrated SF bench
2.125"/1.76" Manley SS valves, 45 degree seats
Bullet flat tappet solid, 232I/235E @ .050", .563"I/.573"E lift with the HS "1.65" rockers, 108 LSA, installed per cam card @ 105 ATDC
Recurved NOS Delco point distributor, T.I. Specialties electronic conversion
Stock unported 72 455HO intake, 800CFM SD455 Q-jet, STOCK AC-Delco fuel pump, stock fuel system
R.A.R.E. 2.5" outlet repro SD exhaust manifolds, 2.5" MB X-pipe exhaust system, prototype SINGLE transverse muffler
TH400, NOS L88 converter - flashes to about 2600 RPM
OE 3.08 posi, 15x8" repro Rally II's, 27x10.50 ET Streets at the track

Best pass is in my sig below, and I feel there's quite a bit more left in my combo. The weather that day was dismal - hot and humid with a 20+ MPH headwind. One of my ET Streets was - believe it or not - 15!!! ounces out of balance (must've spun on the rim!). The car was shaking so badly by mid track it was difficult to see! Upshifts were a tad late @ 5600 RPM. Felt like it might have been "nosing over" in high gear - gonna install an electric pusher pump before my next track session.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. My engine builder wasn't surprised at the 32 degrees total lead, BTW, though I was. I expected to be running at least 36!

Later,
Lloyd

'72 Formula 455 - TH400, 3.08 posi, A/C, Y99, tach & gauges, AM-FM stereo, 8-track, Formula wheel, etc.; Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe Int; 12.96 @ 104 MPH @ the '03 PSN's

1970 GTO, 455HO, TH400, A/C, 3.07 peg-leg, AM, tach/gauges, tilt wood wheel & cruise, PDB, P/S, power LH seat, rear defog, etc.; Palomino Copper w/ Sandlewood buckets and Sandlewood Cordova top; All there but in need of resto

Soon a body-off resto will begin on a 72 GTO 455HO, TH400, A/C, etc.; Sundance Orange with Ivory buckets

[Nickv]

I've seen badbird's car up close and personal also at Ocean City. Didn't see any Nitrous on it. Beautiful car and street driven, and sounds mean as hell.

[Rob]

anyone got a direct link to get to info on Pontiac engines that went to the dyno. I was on the engine masters website and can't find anything but descriptions of the builders.

-Rob

[Goatman]

I know I can keep them if I wanted to, but at this point, they would introduce flex back into the chassis and would actually work against me. I'll probably X-brace the doors along with adding a halo and the front legs to the engine compartment.

I'm like heaven, everybody wanna get to me.........

[Brian Baker]

Squirmin' around a bit and out of the groove.

Nice ride.

[Goatman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brian Baker:
Who wants to make a bet with me that Bruce turns into Gach by the time he's 55?

Well, excluding Bruce's superior grammar skills.

http://kurtspontiac.homestead.com/files/bbaker.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I take up plumming, I will let you all know.....

I'm like heaven, everybody wanna get to me.........

[Goatman]

Chad, 70HP is only 10% if you're motor is making 700HP. Get it?

My motor made 640 HP and it was the first to go on the dyno after it was calibrated. It went 10.62 @ 128 and my car wieghed about 3500lbs. My 60's at the time were identical to his. Yes, the chassis set up is key, and he has less frontal area than I do, but, if the chassis set up isn't in the 60', then where is it?

My current 60' is a 1.42 which is way better than his, and I'm still one MPH off him, but .10 quicker. Basically the same wieght. Basically the same stall, but I have an 8" converter. So, yes, his is tighter.

You telling me that his chassis is set up to be more efficient? No way brother.

I'm like heaven, everybody wanna get to me.........

[mikeb]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Half-Inch Stud:
That is my reason for keeping the Torker I. Since I achieved excellent plug readings, and it reliably starts the motor in winter driving (that's the real proof of good mixture).
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Half-Inch Stud - can you post up a little info on what you did to your T1 to get even flow? I'm running one and i'm trying to decide whether to keep it or try something else.

The P-RPM seems like a good choice

[Goatman]

Yes, that's definitely a dark colored first gen firebird. Absolutley astounding. You can tell that car is all motor just by.....errrrr, ummmm. Nevermind....

Sounds like a "street car" too.

I'm like heaven, everybody wanna get to me.........

[Brian Baker]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SupergasDil:
Is anyone else getting the error message when trying to start a new topic?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I brought it Chris' attention yesterday afternoon.

[culick]

For whatever it's worth...

[John Bailey (GTOKID)]

jeff what gas are you using? you may be missing power with wrong gas...

[TinInjun]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sky_lopez_stage2:
Don't let the looks fool you. My Grand Prix has a tube frame and rear wheel drive.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gee, sure looks like a stock GT model that will run a blistering low 16 second quarter mile.

"Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... seems I repeated myself." --Mark Twain

[Goatman]

My personal favorite post was the guy who was using Marty Palbykin's twin turbo, alcohol burning, 2900lb Pro Mod car as an example of a "D-port car" that goes fast........ That wqs silly!

Jim Zeek is going fast with D-ports too. Its just that there isn't much D-port left on the inside and his car is very, very light.

A motor is a motor. You get a certain amount of air and fuel to it, at a certain velocity, and it will make a certain amount of power.

I still agree with Joe and that's my rite.

I'm like heaven, everybody wanna get to me.........

[bad69bird]

Ain't it the truth

Don't hate the player, hate da game.

[JOE ALLAN]

BADBIRD68 - Please send me the weather from that good run you made! As you only have three runs on this motor i'd like to see you run some where else then we can compare the base run to base run! Because the numbers don't jive! --- I figured half the nite and they just don't get it! Then i found the answer You couldn't run them numbers anywhere else but there at this time of year!...Alot of records have been set there over the years! Do you know why? I know you do, thats why you were there that nite! sea-level track - 432 feet below sea-level corrected elevation and you know what else toooo don't you! JOE ALLAN... ps. its to bad the track wasn't long enough to tun from the finish line to the start'n line

[72 LeMans]

1968 Pontiac GT0
1972 Pontiac LeMans

Heart Of Illinois GTO club member

"This aint no damn Chevelle"