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Old 01-20-2013, 03:06 PM
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Default Stan Antlocers Old 1963 Super Duty Goin Up on The Auction Block This Week

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0113-143465

Has anyone seen this yet?? (more pics at the link)

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ESTIMATE: $475,000 - $550,000

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- One of six 1963 Pontiac Tempest LeMans factory lightweight 421 SD coupes
- Known as the “World’s Fastest Tempest”
- Sponsored by Stan Long Pontiac, driven by Stan Antlocer
- White with Blue bucket seat interior
- Restored by Scott Tiemann’s Super Car Specialties in Pontiac, Michigan
- Engine build and dyno by Doug Hughes, Mesa AZ
- Performance 535 HP @ 5700 RPM, 556 lb-ft @ 4300 RPM


"After Mickey Thompson and Royal Pontiac dominated Super Stock and A/FX in 1962 with their own specially-prepared Tempest racers, Pontiac Motor Division took direct aim at the NHRA's Factory Experimental class, building 14 special lightweight Tempest racers – six LeMans coupes, six station wagons and two standard coupes. Built on December 12th, 1962 at the Pontiac, MI assembly plant, the purpose-built LeMans coupes were all painted White and given Blue interiors with bucket seats. Following in Thompson’s footsteps, Pontiac Engineering endowed the cars with high compression, dual quad-equipped 421 CI Super Duty engines connected to unique rear-mounted 4-speed automatic transmissions. All used aluminum front sheet metal and brake drums, acid dipped bumpers and mounting brackets and lightweight windshield glass, resulting in almost perfect 48/52 weight distribution while keeping the cars in line with the NHRA’s 7.5 pounds-per-cubic-inch A/FX class weight limit.

One of the six built, this Tempest LeMans coupe was delivered to Stan Long Pontiac on Grand River Road in Detroit. Driver Stan Antlocer campaigned the car through a busy and successful 1963 season that included the all-important Indy Nationals. Along the way he made an important change to the car; the 4-speed transaxle accommodated only up to a 3.90 final drive ratio and was somewhat prone to breaking under the 421’s explosive power, so Antlocer replaced the factory driveline with a heavy duty Borg Warner 3-speed manual transmission and a full-size Pontiac rear end with a 4.30 gearset. The change paid off in spades, earning Antlocer the title of “World’s Fastest Tempest” after tearing off an 11.93 ET at 123.95 MPH at U.S. 131 Dragway in Martin, MI.

This record-setting Pontiac factory lightweight Tempest was restored by Scott Teimann’s renowned Super Car Specialties in Portland MI to its configuration as originally raced by Stan Antlocer, including the 421 Super Duty engine with dual inline Carter 4-barrel carburetors and unique exhaust headers built by George DeLorean, 10-inch M&H Racemaster slicks on Black painted steel wheels and graphics proclaiming Stan Long Pontiac sponsorship of the “World’s Fastest Tempest.” It holds an honored place in Pontiac’s storied drag racing history and stands as a tribute to the forward thinkers at Pontiac Engineering and racers like Stan Antlocer who competed with their creations in the heat of that era’s great A/FX battles."
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:31 PM
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We've been talking about it. I predict hammer down at 490K.

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:42 PM
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We've been talking about it. I predict hammer down at 490K.
Ahh, sorry if its a dupe then. Wish I had the dough.
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We've been talking about it. I predict hammer down at 490K.
By the looks of other sales, my prediction might be high. Hope I'm wrong.

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:45 PM
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No problem. We dupe everything on this forum. Besides, the auction details hadn't been posted yet.

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:49 PM
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No problem. We dupe everything on this forum. Besides, the auction details hadn't been posted yet.
lol
Oh, so it already went up on the block??
I was wondering if it was going to be on tv.

thanks
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Not on the block yet. S137 is the lot number, so it will be going up mid Saturday.

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Not on the block yet. S137 is the lot number, so it will be going up late Saturday.
ok, good to know.

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mid Saturday, not late Saturday.

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Old 01-20-2013, 07:18 PM
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I had a good week at work
Maybe I'll go bid see if I can get it.
ROLMFAO.

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Old 01-20-2013, 07:33 PM
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Nah. Buy it in 3 years for 320K.

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Old 01-20-2013, 07:37 PM
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Wonder why they didn't add the Isky cam card on the dash?

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Old 01-21-2013, 01:40 AM
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owner chose not to

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Old 01-21-2013, 08:57 AM
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heck dont wait 3 years wait another 10 most of the baby boomers will be in the ground pushing up daiseys and you will get the car for under a 100.000 and all of my cars will sink also. mark my words in the year 2023 it will be like the 80's all over again the only difference will be all the cars will be totaly restored and 12.00 a gallon gas so no one will be able to afford to even start them more or less drive them

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Did it sell? How'd it do?

I was out of town over the weekend and couldn't watch.

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Old 01-21-2013, 02:33 PM
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heck dont wait 3 years wait another 10 most of the baby boomers will be in the ground pushing up daiseys and you will get the car for under a 100.000 and all of my cars will sink also. mark my words in the year 2023 it will be like the 80's all over again the only difference will be all the cars will be totaly restored and 12.00 a gallon gas so no one will be able to afford to even start them more or less drive them
I can say based on experience that you are wrong. With about 400 old Pontiacs here, I sell vintage Pontiac parts and have plenty of customers in their 30s and 40s. They are hardly 'boomers'. I also have plenty of Pontiac friends in their 20s and 30s and 40s.
I even know of a bunch of young men in their late teens into 60s era cars.
There will always be interest in 60s era cars . I do see the interest changing though as less and less of the younger people care if it has original hose clamps, correct dates on things like starters and alternators, etc. There will be more interest in modifying these cars.
Yes, prices and interest with cycle up and down but, there will always be interest in 60s era cars and , thus, there will always be value in them.
Pure original restorations will stay primarily with the elderly.

The main problem with the hobby subsiding is most of us have our cars so cherry we have to park them in garages and drive a late model to work. We take our pristine vintage cars to car shows and sit in lawn chairs with people their own age.
What is wrong with that? Well, you are not exposing younger generations to these cars because they never get to see them. It is your ( their fault ).
I drive my 66 GTO daily regardless of weather and I tow with it. You would be surprised at the attention my old car gets from young people every day! Exposing younger generations to vintage cars is the smartest way to keep the hobby strong.

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heck dont wait 3 years wait another 10 most of the baby boomers will be in the ground pushing up daiseys and you will get the car for under a 100.000 and all of my cars will sink also. mark my words in the year 2023 it will be like the 80's all over again the only difference will be all the cars will be totaly restored and 12.00 a gallon gas so no one will be able to afford to even start them more or less drive them
I think you are correct.

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Don't get the Obama blues just yet...

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I hope Steve is right and Rattcruiser and I are wrong. We will see. At the rate I'm going, assuming I'm still here in ten years, I will finish my last car about the time the bottom falls out. The one good thing is that I am not doing it for the money. Although I would still like to get my money back.

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I'm still in my 30's and I don't have any interest in the newer "super cars" being built. I plan on building a GTO for my son and daughter to share once they are old enough to drive (6 more years).

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