[grd777]

picked up a bunch of part today .got these rear speakers, guy told me that the are early trans am type the were used on the line . anyone can help i.d these

[giles]

I don’t think a rear speaker got a cover like that until ‘72. I think all ‘70-‘71 custom trim cars and base trim cars with a rear speaker option got the mesh package tray.

[grd777]

Originally Posted by giles

I don’t think a rear speaker got a cover like that until ‘72. I think all ‘70-‘71 custom trim cars and base trim cars with a rear speaker option got the mesh package tray.

ok so would the pointed studs be correct

[Transamric]

Originally Posted by giles

I don’t think a rear speaker got a cover like that until ‘72. I think all ‘70-‘71 custom trim cars and base trim cars with a rear speaker option got the mesh package tray.

I agree with this...basically. But remember some rear speaker kits that were sold to dealers to be dealer installed used a metal grille at least similar to the one pictured.
But factory line installed, don't think so.

[unruhjonny]

I have never see n the pointed studs.

That is the cover style used on (?)1973+ though.

[grd777]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

I have never see n the pointed studs.

That is the cover style used on (?)1973+ though.

me too .the guy said it was used on the assembly line to make it a quick install . they just have to bang it in the package tray cardboard . i guess it make senses

[starlightblack]

Originally Posted by grd777

me too .the guy said it was used on the assembly line to make it a quick install . they just have to bang it in the package tray cardboard . i guess it make senses

No, it is not an assembly line part, it is a dealership part. If a car had a radio or stereo installed AT THE DEALER these would be used by a dealership employee as a quick install to the package tray. Just bang it in with your hand and done. Those pointed studs never reached the sheet metal, they just grabbed the package tray fabric.

[grd777]

Originally Posted by starlightblack

No, it is not an assembly line part, it is a dealership part. If a car had a radio or stereo installed AT THE DEALER these would be used by a dealership employee as a quick install to the package tray. Just bang it in with your hand and done. Those pointed studs never reached the sheet metal, they just grabbed the package tray fabric.

yes that makes a lot of sense

[Trevor78]

I also have never seen the spiked version, only threaded. I went through the early GM part numbers for speaker covers, none were unaccounted for, if that means anything.

http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/j...oa1/2f04_1.jpg

While the general oval shape and stamping is very similar to the common '72-81 version, I haven't seen one with the speaker holes closely following the speaker shape with no holes in corners.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/iu0AA...3y/s-l1200.jpg

[72projectbird]

I have the same covers, but the studs aren't spiked like that.

Did someone sharpen them to a point to help with installation? I could see it being easier to push them through the package tray and get the nuts started with a pointed stud.

[grd777]

Originally Posted by 72projectbird

I have the same covers, but the studs aren't spiked like that.

Did someone sharpen them to a point to help with installation? I could see it being easier to push them through the package tray and get the nuts started with a pointed stud.

will check

[grd777]

Originally Posted by grd777

will check

i have two of these speakers. all the studs are the same ,if the were done by hand they would be all different . they were definitely done by a machine look at the photo. i believe they were done by the factory

[Trevor78]

[QUOTE=72projectbird;6469461]I have the same covers, but the studs aren't /QUOTE]

Do your covers have the same blanks in each corner with no speaker holes? Or yours are just regular speaker covers like the rest?

[grd777]

[QUOTE=Trevor78;6469623]

Originally Posted by 72projectbird

I have the same covers, but the studs aren't /QUOTE]

Do your covers have the same blanks in each corner with no speaker holes? Or yours are just regular speaker covers like the rest?

wow never notice that ,no holes in the corner .wonder what car they would be from

[78w72]

The pointed studs on those grilles look a lot shorter than the 2nd gen grilles i have used or seen, they dont look like they will go all the way through the package tray trim and metal section then still have enough threads for the speaker to bolt in. Unless its the angle of the pics?

I have factory speaker grilles in 3 cars, 72 firebird that had the single rear 6x9, as well as 78 and 81 t/a's, the grilles have 1-1.5" long full studs.

[grd777]

Originally Posted by 78w72

The pointed studs on those grilles look a lot shorter than the 2nd gen grilles i have used or seen, they dont look like they will go all the way through the package tray trim and metal section then still have enough threads for the speaker to bolt in. Unless its the angle of the pics?

I have factory speaker grilles in 3 cars, 72 firebird that had the single rear 6x9, as well as 78 and 81 t/a's, the grilles have 1-1.5" long full studs.

i was told buy this guy that they were not screwed in .They would just give the a punch with there hand and that was it . not saying he is correct ,buy it is a weird speaker grill

[unruhjonny]

maybe the person who put the grille in place was someone else, but I guarantee, they WERE connected.

The cover sinched the package tray to the rear dash, then underneath, a speaker was connected to the four studs, and the speaker cover was attached to the bottom of the speaker.

Here is what they are supposed to look like from underneath.

[grd777]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

maybe the person who put the grille in place was someone else, but I guarantee, they WERE connected.

The cover sinched the package tray to the rear dash, then underneath, a speaker was connected to the four studs, and the speaker cover was attached to the bottom of the speaker.

Here is what they are supposed to look like from underneath.

what do u think these came from

[grd777]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

maybe the person who put the grille in place was someone else, but I guarantee, they WERE connected.

The cover sinched the package tray to the rear dash, then underneath, a speaker was connected to the four studs, and the speaker cover was attached to the bottom of the speaker.

Here is what they are supposed to look like from underneath.

this is how i always seen them also

[78w72]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

maybe the person who put the grille in place was someone else, but I guarantee, they WERE connected.

The cover sinched the package tray to the rear dash, then underneath, a speaker was connected to the four studs, and the speaker cover was attached to the bottom of the speaker.

Here is what they are supposed to look like from underneath.

Thats what I was saying, the grille studs go through the package tray and the speakers bolt to the studs. Not aware of any 2nd gen using a different factory arrangement for the rear speakers/grilles.

Those grilles may be from a different car, or they are modified and the speakers attached a different way without using the grilles?