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Old 01-05-2013, 04:41 AM
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Unhappy Name Calling ...

... well guys, over the past few days, Roland and myself have recieved a lot of feedback from people on the forums, due to the recent CV-1 related BS type of threads and topics, and i have to tell you, the biggest complaint most of them had, was the name calling that i myself have committed ...

... so, after painstakingly reviewing those threads today, i realize i DO owe those people (except Chris Sakorski AKA BlakTopr) an apology, even the people i've called the names ...

... it has been a long battle with most of those people with all this CV hatred, 4 yrs now, and i have to admit it becomes very easy for the DS, Moron, & Retard type of comments to come out ...

... i will say that we have not recieved a single email, PM, text, or phone call stating (which has been a lot) that what we fight for is not understood, in fact, they support it even, and most are just tired of watching all the fighting, but they still understand why and how wrong the relentless attack of this product and its people is completely unwarranted, an no they are not all CV-1 customers, the majority of them was not ...

... and almost everyone of those people recognize the same list of names or people that always start this mess, but they think its hilarious how we always get blamed for that ??? ...

... so with that being said, i am truely sorry for allowing myself to stoop to the level of the name calling and i "WILL NOT" do that anymore, BUT for all of those many people that took the time to contact Roland & myself about this matter, which we thank you for, i would ask that they take the same approach in contacting the moderators of this forum and even the "CV-1 Haters" list of people, and inform them of just how much you disapprove of their relentless attacks against a manufacturer's product and its development ...

... Thank You ...

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Old 01-05-2013, 05:16 AM
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People are frikin sensitive. Let me know who they are, my wife is into coupons, maybe she can find one for some Vagisil and i'll send it to them.

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Old 01-05-2013, 05:24 AM
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People are frikin sensitive. Let me know who they are, my wife is into coupons, maybe she can find one for some Vagisil and i'll send it to them.

... John, people have a right to their opinion, and my apology is me trying to respect that ...

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Old 01-05-2013, 08:36 AM
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People are frikin sensitive. Let me know who they are, my wife is into coupons, maybe she can find one for some Vagisil and i'll send it to them.
LOL! ur a homo john and i will not apologize.

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Old 01-05-2013, 08:43 AM
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People need to stay off the boards if they don't like it. NO ONE IS FORCED INTO READING ANY OF THIS INTERNET BS.

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Old 01-05-2013, 06:10 PM
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LOL! ur a homo john and i will not apologize.
Im rubber and your glue bounces off me and sticks to you, LOL

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Myself I think in time with lots of developement
The CV heads are gona be bad ass. JMO.

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Myself I think in time with lots of developement
The CV heads are gona be bad ass. JMO. GT.
Should have been a very good head (as they were originally supposed to be a copy of a Ford Head, I was told). Maybe there is still hope with the Next Gen Heads. I really like the Convertible Exhaust feature. Would be great on a Turbo engine.

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Old 01-05-2013, 09:07 AM
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So you bad-mouth me at 12:30 AM today and then at 3:41AM today, you painstakingly reviewed a lot of threads (in 2 hours) and decided that you and Jim think that you, Bill, owed people an apology? Right, Bill.

You are so full of it. In an hour you will be right back bad-mouthing me, Brian, my job performance, and a lot of other things.
I do not accept your apology as I think it is all a bunch of BS just like 98% of the other posts you make.

In an hour, you will go thru a Bi-Polar mental change and be trashing people again.

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So you bad-mouth me at 12:30 AM today and then at 3:41AM today, you painstakingly reviewed a lot of threads (in 2 hours) and decided that you and Jim think that you, Bill, owed people an apology? Right, Bill.

You are so full of it. In an hour you will be right back bad-mouthing me, Brian, my job performance, and a lot of other things.
I do not accept your apology as I think it is all a bunch of BS just like 98% of the other posts you make.

In an hour, you will go thru a Bi-Polar mental change and be trashing people again.

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Bashing??? ok!! Read my threads and see how i take it on the chin so much now thats bashing plus i can,t even use a rebutable in fear of being banned. Good luck my friend im behind you all the way!!

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Bashing??? ok!! Read my threads and see how i take it on the chin so much now thats bashing plus i can,t even use a rebutable in fear of being banned. Good luck my friend im behind you all the way!!

... thank you very much Sir, i appreciate that ...

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Old 01-05-2013, 08:05 PM
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Bashing??? ok!! Read my threads and see how i take it on the chin so much now thats bashing plus i can,t even use a rebutable in fear of being banned. Good luck my friend im behind you all the way!!
Look at that Bill, you are ahead of someone!! LMAO

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So you bad-mouth me at 12:30 AM today and then at 3:41AM today, you painstakingly reviewed a lot of threads (in 2 hours) and decided that you and Jim think that you, Bill, owed people an apology? Right, Bill.

You are so full of it. In an hour you will be right back bad-mouthing me, Brian, my job performance, and a lot of other things.
I do not accept your apology as I think it is all a bunch of BS just like 98% of the other posts you make.

In an hour, you will go thru a Bi-Polar mental change and be trashing people again.

Tom Vaught

... wow, that's funny, YOU calling me Bi-Polar, lol ...

... well Tom, i disagree, so i'll say it again, I Apoligize to you for any name calling i have done to you recently, or in the past (even if you deserved it) and i will not call you anything other than Tom ...

... and all i did was review all of my own posts Tom, it wasnt that difficult ...

... but that doesn't mean i will agree with you ...

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Old 01-05-2013, 06:40 PM
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... wow, that's funny, YOU calling me Bi-Polar, lol ...

... well Tom, i disagree, so i'll say it again, I Apoligize to you for any name calling i have done to you recently, or in the past (even if you deserved it) and i will not call you anything other than Tom ...

... and all i did was review all of my own posts Tom, it wasnt that difficult ...

... but that doesn't mean i will agree with you ...

Well I was wrong because you did pretty much go the whole day now, 5:30 Eastern Time without falling off the wagon, Bill.

I still think that the shots taken at Brian were still totally wrong (when the guy was trying to promote your product and then you guys throw him under the bus).

Everyone makes mistakes: Maybe a guy installed a part wrong. Maybe I think a guys has possible Bi-Polar tendencies. Maybe a guy is showing off to his buddies and runs his mouth about wanting to hit on an under-age girl. It is what it is.

Be very careful out there, Bill.

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This one made me laugh out loud. Irony.

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What I would suggest is to quietly create a PROVEN 1k hp top end system. Run it down the track naturally aspirated and weigh it in front of the naysayers and then come up with a total cost to sell such product. People are looking for results to pay their hard earned money for. I myself would never buy a product based strictly on flow bench numbers that "should" make the hp I am trying to make... Heck I make over 700 hp na with 314 cfm true "junk" E-heads with stainless valves, lunati springs and the most exotic parts - ti retainers. Heck my valves are stock replacement RA IV length and 2.11 and 1.77 size and I make all my hp by 6300 so I don't have to spin the piss out of it to get it.

I know I am way below the performance of the others on here but I have a 455 block with 2 bolt mains, stock cast crank and at 3525 lbs I went high 9's na. I am in savings mode right now and will be stepping it up in the future with aftermarket block, forged rotating assembly and a different head package. I will want a proven package regardless of brand and I am just watching to see what is going to get me there.

Bill, keep chipping away at it and show EVERYONE!!!

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What I would suggest is to quietly create a PROVEN 1k hp top end system. Run it down the track naturally aspirated and weigh it in front of the naysayers and then come up with a total cost to sell such product. People are looking for results to pay their hard earned money for. I myself would never buy a product based strictly on flow bench numbers that "should" make the hp I am trying to make... Heck I make over 700 hp na with 314 cfm true "junk" E-heads with stainless valves, lunati springs and the most exotic parts - ti retainers. Heck my valves are stock replacement RA IV length and 2.11 and 1.77 size and I make all my hp by 6300 so I don't have to spin the piss out of it to get it.

I know I am way below the performance of the others on here but I have a 455 block with 2 bolt mains, stock cast crank and at 3525 lbs I went high 9's na. I am in savings mode right now and will be stepping it up in the future with aftermarket block, forged rotating assembly and a different head package. I will want a proven package regardless of brand and I am just watching to see what is going to get me there.

Bill, keep chipping away at it and show EVERYONE!!!
X2. Very good advice.....

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What I would suggest is to quietly create a PROVEN 1k hp top end system. Run it down the track naturally aspirated and weigh it in front of the naysayers and then come up with a total cost to sell such product. People are looking for results to pay their hard earned money for. I myself would never buy a product based strictly on flow bench numbers that "should" make the hp I am trying to make... Heck I make over 700 hp na with 314 cfm true "junk" E-heads with stainless valves, lunati springs and the most exotic parts - ti retainers. Heck my valves are stock replacement RA IV length and 2.11 and 1.77 size and I make all my hp by 6300 so I don't have to spin the piss out of it to get it.

I know I am way below the performance of the others on here but I have a 455 block with 2 bolt mains, stock cast crank and at 3525 lbs I went high 9's na. I am in savings mode right now and will be stepping it up in the future with aftermarket block, forged rotating assembly and a different head package. I will want a proven package regardless of brand and I am just watching to see what is going to get me there.

Bill, keep chipping away at it and show EVERYONE!!!

... we are trying our best to do what you've suggested here, and you are the prototype for a CV-1 customer, or anyone in your position i'm saying, and combo's like yours are exactly what the CV-1 was and is being developed for as an upgrade ...

... but thank you for you comment, and i will keep chippin' away at it ...

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I liked the concept simply because the packaging stuff you have to work around with most Turbo Cars. Has little to do with the specific head, more to do with where you put the mounting flange, Jack. With a Virgin set of castings a good welder could add that feature to a E-Head for example BUT probably it would be much more effort vs what it is real worth.

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Rodney and Travis do NOT need that feature on their Turbo Car, for making power.

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