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Old 12-16-2022, 01:57 PM
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A 2020 1 ton truck.

I took an eight week trip around the country with a brand new 1995 3/4 ton Chevy extended cab with a slide in Lance camper. Never had any issues.
Don’t know if his frame bent or broke but it shouldn’t have done either.
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Looks to be a pretty big camper, wonder how much it weighs? But ya shouldn't have done this.
Have seen this on other sites, just wondering if real or?

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Old 12-16-2022, 03:27 PM
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Looking at other forums, this isn't out of the question.









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Looks like the Dodges would we OK for hauilng around some of those large trash bags, full of leaves.......maybe

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Here's a newsflash: Do a 2 second Google search and you'll see similar pics for ALL brands of trucks...

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Here's a newsflash: Do a 2 second Google search and you'll see similar pics for all brands of trucks...
I did just that, looking for a C3500HD, 1991-2002, the ones that have a filler between the front bumper, and the grille, the kinda ugly, one ton trucks that have a 15,000# GVW rating. Without independent front suspension, they have a solid beam axle with longitudinal front leaf springs. I haven't found any pics/video of a broken one yet.

I own a 95 3500HD box truck, and I doubt any camper, is going to break those frames, one tough truck. I also own 2, K3500 dualies (93, and a 97), they're nowhere near as strong as the 95 3500HD chassis is. Notice in the second picture, the double frame from the center of the cab to the rear spring hangers, right in the area all trucks frames commonly fail.





The 3500HD is a one ton truck, with a two ton double chassis.
Of course in their infinite wisdom, GM stopped making those trucks in 2002, and went back to the single frame that does break.

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I did just that, looking for a C3500HD, 1991-2002, the ones that have a filler between the front bumper, and the grille, the kinda ugly, one ton trucks that have a 15,000# GVW rating. Without independent front suspension, they have a solid beam axle with longitudinal front leaf springs. I haven't found any pics/video of a broken one yet.

I own a 95 3500HD box truck, and I doubt any camper, is going to break those frames, one tough truck. I also own 2, K3500 dualies (93, and a 97), they're nowhere near as strong as the 95 3500HD chassis is. Notice in the second picture, the double frame from the center of the cab to the rear spring hangers, right in the area all trucks frames commonly fail.





The 3500HD is a one ton truck, with a two ton double chassis.
Of course in their infinite wisdom, GM stopped making those trucks in 2002, and went back to the single frame that does break.
I have a 94 C3500 with the 6.5 Diesel. I love this truck. It weighs 6400 Lbs with no tail gate, spare tire and a 1/4 tank of fuel. The last time I went to the dump with broken concrete I crossed the scales at 10,500 lbs.
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I have a 94 C3500 with the 6.5 Diesel. I love this truck. It weighs 6400 Lbs with no tail gate, spare tire and a 1/4 tank of fuel. The last time I went to the dump with broken concrete I crossed the scales at 10,500 lbs.
i think you have the only 6.5 still running in existence. mine started going bad when it had around 6k miles on it. biggest piece of garbage i ever owned. that is why ive been driving fords ever since.

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Overload any truck, and you'll start finding the failure points pretty quickly.

I have a Ram and love it. I've hauled thousands of pounds with it over thousands of miles, and it's been rock solid.

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You see a good amount of those dodge ram thingsover here as well. I refer to them as plastic pickup trucks...

I wouldn'd mind a 1976 dodge w200 though, those look tough..

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You see a good amount of those dodge ram thingsover here as well. I refer to them as plastic pickup trucks...

I wouldn'd mind a 1976 dodge w200 though, those look tough..
Plastic trucks?


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As much as I wouldn't hit a dog in the @ss with a Doge or a Ford Truck...The biggest problem is with the owners having NO idea what they own! See picture below of a Ford pictured by someone who claims to know what he is doing, but clearly has NO idea about trucks, trailers or cars for that matter & spends most of his time riding in a "Greypooch" Buys an old junk Ford 7.3 & the 1st time he uses it the frame which was obviously rotten out breaks! LMAO!!!!

Back in the 90's when Dodge came out with the bodystyle that looked like an antique...I thought, Damn that looks really cool, until I would see lots of them on fire climbing up a hill pulling a trailer! I NEVER laugh at someones elses misfortune, because that brings Karma back on me, but it seemed like ALL the Dodge One Tons with the Cummins were burning up on the side of the road back then!

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.... Back in the 90's when Dodge came out with the bodystyle that looked like an antique...I thought, Damn that looks really cool, until I would see lots of them on fire climbing up a hill pulling a trailer! I NEVER laugh at someones elses misfortune, because that brings Karma back on me, but it seemed like ALL the Dodge One Tons with the Cummins were burning up on the side of the road back then!

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In the 90's, I was on the road a ton, & when the '94 Dodge Rams came out, my brother, through the oil company he worked for, had a 7.3 Ford that wasn't getting the job done. The company ended up equipping him with the first '94 Dodge Cummins dually sold in OKC. That one ton Cummins ended up being worked hard near every day, eventually all over about 10 states, hotshot hauls. During that time, the company went from 2 warehouses/yards to 13, & my brother was literally the thumb in the dike. Turned up & no muffler & particulate trap, that Dodge sounded like a giant bumble bee/ very annoying. That particular Dodge was also the first diesel one ton in the state that had to get DOT rated @ Great Dane. Was placarded at 31,500lbs GWVR on the doors.

Both of us were on the road hauling so much back then, & I sure can't remember any 2nd Gen Cummins "burning up on the side of the road". The only weakness we eventually noticed on that '94 Cummins dually was the automatic transmission. Originally, the oil company he worked for had ordered a dually with a NP4500 5spd, but when the first '94 Cummins Duallys hit Lynn Hickeys dealership, they were all automatics. In a hurry to put a new truck in service, it was bought, & went a hard 122,000 miles in less than 18 months when the trans had to be rebuilt. Then it went back to work.

When I was casually searching, then finally on a serious hunt in '00 for a used 3/4 ton Cummins Dodge, it had to be a ext cab, a 12 valve, a 5 speed, & white. Crazy thing was I was in a local crusher yard in 8inches of mud hauling off a cartrailer stacked load of processed partscar sheetmetal. The fellow behind me on the scale watched me as i pulled through the slop in 4L in my XJ Cherokee. Later he & I start talking trucks, & by sheer coincidence, he had the exact Cummins Ram I was looking for

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Both of us were on the road hauling so much back then, & I sure can't remember any 2nd Gen Cummins "burning up on the side of the road". The only weakness we eventually noticed on that '94 Cummins dually was the automatic transmission. Originally, the oil company he worked for had ordered a dually with a NP4500 5spd, but when the first '94 Cummins Duallys hit Lynn Hickeys dealership, they were all automatics. In a hurry to put a new truck in service, it was bought, & went a hard 122,000 miles in less than 18 months when the trans had to be rebuilt. Then it went back to work.





I LOVE the NV4500 5 spd trans! I did a little customizing & put one in my 74 GMC square body 1 ton dually . I built the truck in '94 & put 850,000 miles on it before I retired it. The NV4500 was only the 2nd trans the truck had as I started with a 700r4 from premier performance in California. It worked great, but only lasted 200K. The NV4500 lasted 600K & I had just replaced it with a Jasper reman 30K before I retired the truck, so the trans is here in my shop...One of these days I will list it for sale along with the dually rear axle which I had rebuild at the same time I changed the trans. Should have retired it a few months earlier, it would have saved me some money!

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In the 90's, I was on the road a ton, & when the '94 Dodge Rams came out, my brother, through the oil company he worked for, had a 7.3 Ford that wasn't getting the job done. The company ended up equipping him with the first '94 Dodge Cummins dually sold in OKC. That one ton Cummins ended up being worked hard near every day, eventually all over about 10 states, hotshot hauls. During that time, the company went from 2 warehouses/yards to 13, & my brother was literally the thumb in the dike. Turned up & no muffler & particulate trap, that Dodge sounded like a giant bumble bee/ very annoying. That particular Dodge was also the first diesel one ton in the state that had to get DOT rated @ Great Dane. Was placarded at 31,500lbs GWVR on the doors.

Both of us were on the road hauling so much back then, & I sure can't remember any 2nd Gen Cummins "burning up on the side of the road". The only weakness we eventually noticed on that '94 Cummins dually was the automatic transmission. Originally, the oil company he worked for had ordered a dually with a NP4500 5spd, but when the first '94 Cummins Duallys hit Lynn Hickeys dealership, they were all automatics. In a hurry to put a new truck in service, it was bought, & went a hard 122,000 miles in less than 18 months when the trans had to be rebuilt. Then it went back to work.

When I was casually searching, then finally on a serious hunt in '00 for a used 3/4 ton Cummins Dodge, it had to be a ext cab, a 12 valve, a 5 speed, & white. Crazy thing was I was in a local crusher yard in 8inches of mud hauling off a cartrailer stacked load of processed partscar sheetmetal. The fellow behind me on the scale watched me as i pulled through the slop in 4L in my XJ Cherokee. Later he & I start talking trucks, & by sheer coincidence, he had the exact Cummins Ram I was looking for
I agree! The Dodge's seemed pretty tough minus the trans back then. They would have band failure in the trans. The other thing I would mention is the corrosion.

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Overload any truck, and you'll start finding the failure points pretty quickly.

I have a Ram and love it. I've hauled thousands of pounds with it over thousands of miles, and it's been rock solid.
This is the most accurate statement, I have read, concerning ANY manufacturers offering with a Truck.

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I figure they are cheaper for a reason.
I’d love to have a Cummins engine, but the bodies, Ummm….no

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I figure they are cheaper for a reason.
I’d love to have a Cummins engine, but the bodies, Ummm….no
There's a good reason that many people swap the 5.9 Cummins into the GMT 400 chassis (88-98 chevy, and GMC). That's a fairly popular swap if you look on the net.

I have 2 GMT 400 trucks that have the 6.5 TD, and one with the 454 gas, which I really don't like. I know the 6.5 isn't near the power of a 5.9 Cummins, but they suit me fine. I can see after owning the 454 truck why many people opted for the 6.5, the mileage sucks. About 8 miles per gallon with gas, compared to 15 with the 6.5.

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