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I missed the exit post.
Hadn't seen Cliff R post anything or respond as of late, so I went to his member page and read his exit post. Sorry to see him go. I learned a lot from his post and responses to others.. I'm basically a nobody here and a novice at best, therefore, I have no idea who anyone is good or bad. I will say that I hate to see that he has left. Good guy in my opinion. FWIW.
Loved his tag line " If you can read this thank a teacher" So long Cliff and thank you for all you gave to this community. |
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I met Cliff back around 2002 at Norwalk. Always a good guy. Has a lot of knowledge and some good info for guys on carbs and cams.
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I had no idea that happened .
Thanks for giving us the heads up about Cliff Ruggles' decision to no longer be active on the PY Forums .... due to an aggressive-stage of trolling . High majority of us here are just hobbyists and enthusiasts. Always great when any automotive professional or specialist is willing to interact with us. Repeated badgering or multiple insulting comments are best left to the television shows that are designed around those negatives. This isn't hollywood and nobody is getting paid for being here. link to Cliff's exit post https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...r.php?u=140049 Last edited by Baron Von Zeppelin; 12-07-2021 at 03:01 PM. |
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Shame. He is one of the best in our small segment of the hobby.
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I have called Cliff, Pete Serio, and David Ray a few times each. All three were happy to spend an hour or more with me discussing their specialties (carbs, gauges and ignition systems) and other things we had in common. I always had a note pad handy for those golden nuggets of information.
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It's too bad a few bad apples have to mess it up for the rest of us. Cliff will be missed.
X2 on what Baron posted. |
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It's a shame to see him go. I was just thinking that he hadn't posted anything recently. I really enjoyed the info he shared because it was from real experience vs "I think this will work". In the few years I've been on here I've seen some good people like him leave, damn shame.
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all is not lost, you can still stop in and say hi or ask questions on his own forum.
https://cliffshighperformance.com/simplemachinesforum/
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The good news is that Cliff is still taking in work (just sent him a carb for him to work his magic on) just not working as much as he did for decades. He let me know up front it might take a 2-3 months to get it back. Considering his talent and reputation, I let him know that time frame works for me. I'm just glad he is willing to do it. If you need something shoot him an email. We all have to slow down at some point.
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So why is it the good guy leaves and the assholes get to hang around?
Yet another sign the skids are now in control….
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I have had my share of long conversations with Cliff. The guy didn't know me from Adam(Atom?) and treated me excellent. Never rushed me, always helped. Good guy and good for the hobby and Pontiac community.
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How to register on that forum though? I would like to continue to read up on quadrajets & pontiacs.
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Cliff does have a lot of knowledge. Lots of good information over the years. Also a lot of beating a dead horse to make points over and over and over again. A lot of stroking his own ego. Let's not be naïve here. Cliff made a lot of money via his involvement here. Nobody hurt his feelings and ran him off. He don't need this anymore.
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Again, I don't know the man, but I can read. |
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I just don't see how bashing someone on the forum is a positive thing, but you are of course are entitled to your opinion. So for now the score appears to be 12 positives and 1 negative. No bad.
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well that's too bad.
I also didn't see that, or know this until it was posted. Didn't this forum at one time have a "block" feature, which allowed you to not see posts by aggravating individuals?
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And here we have a great example of why he left
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Agreed, I started the thread to let members know Cliff was gone. I discovered that this morning when I went to his member page to pm him a cam question.
If I thought my thread appreciating Cliff for his past comments here was going to induce other members to post negative comments about him, I would never have started the thread. I was raised that if I didn't have something good to say about someone. Say nothing. I use the forum to gain knowledge, I should have ignored the negative post. I guess I felt responsible since I started it by posting. Lesson learned. |
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