FAQ |
Members List |
Social Groups |
Calendar |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#1
|
||||
|
||||
TRW Valves
I'm wondering if these TRW replacement valves are considered a "one piece" or a "two piece" valve. I see on here that factory Pontiac valves are/were "two piece" and subject to breaking? How are they constructed to make them "two piece"?
|
#2
|
||||
|
||||
The heads are friction welded to the stems.
If they’re not stainless aftermarket they’re 2-piece stock replacements.
__________________
1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 |
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to b-man For This Useful Post: | ||
#3
|
||||
|
||||
You can tell on some valves, where the stem meets the head, that area feels and looks bumpy. Just doesn't look machined, if friction welded...
__________________
1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
The ones you REALLY have to watch out for are the 3-piece valves.
A ring of hard steel alloy for the valve face, around a soft-steel head, welded to the stem. I've got a BBC exhaust valve that's been blown-through where the hard ring that the valve face is ground-on meets the softer valve head. |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Schurkey For This Useful Post: | ||
#5
|
||||
|
||||
A S2638 is a standard length 1.770” high comp exh valve as can be seen in my shot from a TRW catalog, and yes it’s a welded head valve.
I have used these valves for Street and flat out race usage, but I would not use them a long with the open spring pressures needed for solid roller cams , you would want a non welded head valve for pressures over 380 psi.
__________________
Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs! And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs! 1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set. Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks. 1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes. Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph. Education is what your left with once you forget things! |
The Following User Says Thank You to steve25 For This Useful Post: | ||
#6
|
||||
|
||||
3-piece ring-seat valve sounds INCONCEIVEBLE. Photos though..
I noticed that PMD Ram AIR IV, or maybe some other valves had a (non-)magnetic rocker Tip on a (non-)magnetic stem, thus 3-piece. |
#7
|
||||
|
||||
I have some RAIV heads with older 80s SpeedPro V-1826 intake valves listed as "8645' material but that is not in their description list in the catalog. exhausts are V3923 listed as 21-2N a stainless valve. But both are under the OE replacement sections. Flat D port vales flowed better than the tuliped RAIV SI brand/Childs Albert packaged available at the time, just used with a HFT.
I know Fererra is vague about using their 5000 series SS with roller cam pressures. They also make some of the valves for Edelbrock but say they are to Edelbrock's specs and will not divulge how they compare to 5000 or 6000 series.
__________________
Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
That is fairly common. The manufacturers place a stellite tip to counter valve tip wear. I have several old aircraft recip engine valves that have the same thing.
__________________
“It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.” Dr. Thomas Sowell |
Reply |
|
|