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Manual steering box for A-body drag racing – 24 to 1 or 16 to 1
Hey Everybody,
72 GTO with stock front suspension new rebuilt completely with 18 x 5 #180 front springs and adjustable Competition engineering front shocks and double adjustable Competition engineering rear shocks. Four wheel alignment with Drag racing toe in at eighth inch, Mickey Thompson 10.5W Bias drag slicks, adjustable ladder bar suspension. The car is getting fast enough and is launching hard enough to pull the wheels pretty well and is running in the 6.30s in the eighth and 1.30s in the 60 foot. The car is wanting to wander and feel the need to oversteer to keep it going straight down the track once the wheels are down. I'm most uncomfortable with the excessive free play at the steering wheel and how the car wants to wander at speed. I will get a new steering box and wondered which manual steering box for A body drag racing – 24 to 1 or 16 to 1. Which would be best for controlling wheels stands - when they come down and the car recovers and providing less freeplay and reducing wandering at speed. Thanks Again, Craig |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLFD16A2sRg https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gls-ss-6472gskb Also, regarding the steering looseness. make sure your rag joint is tight. |
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What is your caster also? Old factory settings for bias did not use much positive caster. The more positive caster you can get and a slight toe in both make a car wander less.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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maxed caster with offset shafts and 1/8 inch toe in set when front end was raised "3.
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68 Firebird-- Street/Strip - 400/461 Eagle Forged Bottom End & Ross Flat top pistons. KRE 325 CFM D port, Ultradyne 263/271 @.050, .4267 lift. Crower Solid roller lifters and 1.65 stainless rockers. Quickfuel 1000 on Torker2 intake and 2" open spacer. Hedman 1.75" headers. TH400 w/brake. Ford 9" w/3.80 gears & 28x9 Hoosier pro bracket drag radial. Best ET: 1.35 60ft, 6.29 @ 107.20 mph, 9.99 @132.33 mph. 3,300 race weight |
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4.5 caster and 1/8 toe raised at "2 from ride height - I do believe that the bump steer is a thing to look into.
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That caster and toe should be good. Look at rag joint and box for sure, as well as shaft as the U joints in shaft especially if a factory can wear. Then on to bump steer.
I know my S10 manual box in the Camaro is real tight on center but then has some slack the more off center you get. Lares said that is normal for those boxes. But is straight at the track.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Hey Everybody,
Gentlemen, thank you for all your assistance. My current plan is to put on the Global West steering knuckles kit for mitigating bump steer, getting a new 24 to 1 Saginaw manual steering box and returning to the four wheel alignment for re-check and especially rechecking toe in. Thanks again, Craig |
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You most likely already know this but there is an adjustment on your gear box that can take the slop out. My 65 A-body had a lot of slop in the steering until I adjusted the play in the gearbox. Your suspension is working pretty good if you're getting 1.30 60's
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I use a stock manual box in my '68 FB, not sure of the ratio. I use offsets shafts to maximize caster and had a four wheel alignment at a ride height estimated from outside video of the car going down the track. The wheels only come up about a foot but it goes straight down the track and I use very little toe-in, less than a 1/16".
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1967 Firechicken, 499", Edl heads, 262/266@0.050" duration and 0.627"/0.643 lift SR cam, 3.90 gear, 28" tire, 3550#. 10.01@134.3 mph with a 1.45 60'. Still WAY under the rollbar rule. |
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