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Paul Sandoval 488 build
Thought I’d share my Paul Sandoval 488/494 build with you all, as there isn’t a lot of info about him here,
And MYGOAT’s build from Paul, has certainly made for an interesting thread read. I too am down under and wanted a turn key, dyno’d engine. 400 XX Block, bored to 4.180’’.aligned and decked .0005’’ clearance Fully Balanced and blueprinted 4 Bolt Mains Canton road race oil pan Cloyes billet timing set Tomahawk push rod cover 4.5’’ Forged Eagle Crank 6.8’’ Forged I Beam Rods D.S.S Premium Forged Pistons 6150X Sandoval Stage 4 roller cam 246/252@.050’’ .400’’ lobe lift on a 112 LSA Kauffman D-Port 310cm Alum heads Comp Cams Roller lifters Crower SS rockers 1.5.1 ratio Ported Performer RPM Intake SMI Quadzilla Q-jet 900CFM I set, Paul the task of getting as close to 600hp with a Q-jet and dual plane intake, he made 570hp / 642 lb/ft Not too shabby at all, and with a single plane and Holley we probably would have made 600hp. But with the torque I ended up with, who needs another 30hp? I had no interest in vacuum, as I run a hydraboost, but believe it makes around 12-15 Car idles at 750rpm and has a beautiful lope to the idle, I was worried that a 112 LSA would not sound tough enough, but how wrong I was!
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Your car must be very fast ! Because you were haulin ass when I passed you in my GTO. Last edited by Ozzmann; 04-15-2018 at 09:22 PM. |
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Where's the record soundtrack album link?
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Nice build!
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I'll add a link to a clip we took when I first fired up the engine, when I get home tonight.
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Big torque and over 550hp from 4800 up will be a lot of fun. AFR is consistent but maybe a little lean. Some thinner secondary rods could add a bit more power.
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68 GTO,3860# Stock Original 400/M-20 Muncie,3.55’s 13.86 @ 100 Old combo: 462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's. 1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH New combo: 517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's 636HP/654TQ 1.452 10.603 @ 125.09 http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html |
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I had a lot of pinging issues over here at the start, which ended up mainly being the carb too lean at WOT, Paul has since had Sean Murphy build a new qjet to suit, and sent it over, once I installed it, lean issues were gone!
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Your car must be very fast ! Because you were haulin ass when I passed you in my GTO. |
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I'm sure it's probably not cool, and you don't have to answer by any means, but I'm curious what kind of dough it takes to make that kind of power?
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Robert 69 Firebird-462/Edel round ports/currently running the Holley Sniper/4sp/3.23posi/Deluxe Int/pwr st/vintage air/4wl disc( a work in progress-always ) http://youtu.be/eaWBd3M9MN4 |
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Nice build!
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Chris D 69 GTO Liberty Blue/dark blue T400, 9" w 3.50s, 3905lbs 461, 850 Holley, T2, KRE 310s, Comp HR288 w 165s, RA manifolds, 11.60@114, 1.58/60 The spare: 467, 850 Holley, T2, Edelbrock Dport 310cfm w RA manifolds, HFT 245/251D .561/.594L, 11.59@ 114, 1.57/ 60' |
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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Nice build!
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Jim Moshier 1971 Grand Prix 462ci SD Performance 6x heads 1962 Catalina 389 1968 Firebird 400-455 I haven't decided "If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan |
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That's going to be a fun ride !
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Your car must be very fast ! Because you were haulin ass when I passed you in my GTO. |
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Good stuff:
Couple of questions: Are the main caps splayed caps? Tell us about the decision making re the cam - did u consider an lsa of 114. Is that a hydraulic roller cam? Are you running a vacuum pump? I've got a 488 SB that I need to assemble some time and am not sure what cam to use and I really don't wanna run a vacuum/pump set up. (I do have a spare 252/262 HR at 114 - i think that's to big) |
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Very nice. Those cubic inches and 112lsa really smooth out the big cam but it still sounds mean as heck. I read back up several times and do not see compression ratio.
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Where did the compression end up?
Sick torque. |
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That depends on your goal and combination.
Do you want to run 10s or? |
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Yes it is a roller, I was wanting a 110lsa as my last engine had this, , I left the cam choice to Paul, this many cubes was outta my league and well..... he is the one to know what works! No vacuum pump, but if I had room I would run one, I have a serpentine set up with A/C and haven't seen any pumps that will fit with A/C. Quote:
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Your car must be very fast ! Because you were haulin ass when I passed you in my GTO. |
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Ozzman,
Very nice build, I just finished a 463 that was a solid 500hp/560tq, your 4.5 inch stroke good heads and roller cam certainly take it to the next level. Enjoy the new bullet
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71 Goatman Hot Rods & Horsepower.......A diease for which there is no cure. 71 GTO, 463, SD 295 d-port heads, 10.75:1, RPM intake, 502hp/560tq @ the crank, 200r4, 10" Continental convertor, Bullet 234/244 cam, Cliff's Q-Jet, 3:42's w/Eaton True Trac, 5 Power Tours. New performance numbers coming |
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Is the first quadrajet the one that was on the engine in the dyno pull? Dyno sheet showed HP was still climbing at 5,500...So what kind of red line did your builder set for this beast? Clay
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All the federales say,they could've had him any day They only let him slip away, out of kindness...I suppose Poncho & Lefty |
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"Dyno sheet showed HP was still climbing at 5,500...So what kind of red line did your builder set for this beast?"
Another example of stopping a dyno pull short ? If so it's unfortunate in my opinion. It's nice to know where a combination makes peak power at. That said, nice combination ! .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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