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IA1 Ready to assemble 1900.00 to 2000.00 | 12 | 50.00% | |
IA2 Fresh from Butlers' 3300.00 | 12 | 50.00% | |
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll |
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If you could buy a IA1 block ready to assemble and save save 1000 to 1300!
Would you buy it? Or buy the IA2 Block!
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If you could buy a IA1 block ready to assemble and save save 1000 to 1300!
Would you buy it? Or buy the IA2 Block!
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If its one thing I know, its..... Uhhh I forgot . What do you mean I couldnt be the president of the United States of America, Its still WE THE PEOPLE, RIGHT!! |
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Lugnutt dont wast your time with the IA1! trust me the IA11 is well superior with the regesterd mains and the new block is awsome little to no machine work needed to assemble!!!!!!! FRANK and BOB at all pontiac did a great job. Mine was perfect thanks to them. thanks jack
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I'll bet theres going to be some disgruntled IA1 owners out there. It's kinda like the race stuff I purchased, that know one seems to want!
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If its one thing I know, its..... Uhhh I forgot . What do you mean I couldnt be the president of the United States of America, Its still WE THE PEOPLE, RIGHT!! |
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<span class="ev_code_RED">BEEN THEIR DONE THAT</span>The new block is twice as nice thanks jack
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An IA II will not fit in my worlds fastest pontiac powered street car.
Isn't the pan rail lower on the IA II. With a Moroso 7 quart oil pan it barely touches know.So an IA II wouldn't fit? Know if I had the worlds fastest tube chassis car that wouldn't be a problem
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My new street motor will use an IA 1. Had it gone over several times and it doesnt have any problems. Sonic sheets show almost no shift. Im only boring it to 4.280"-4.330". Not all the IA 1's had problems, but because some did it seems to taint them all.
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LIL JACK its only .125 1/8 of an inch pleanty of room! if not I can make the room for you It wont be hard thanks jack. I know of many good IA1 blocks that made lots of power not saying that they are all bad but a lot of them that are BOAT anchors!!!!!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LiL Jack:
An IA II will not fit in my worlds fastest pontiac powered street car. Sure it will, Lil Jack Isn't the pan rail lower on the IA II. With a Moroso 7 quart oil pan it barely touches now. Touches what-the ground? An 1/8" shouldn't matter. Plus the Canton trap door pan is better anyway. So an IA II wouldn't fit? It will I still have 1 of the first run IA II blocks (not registered mains) $2995.00 plus shipping Tom - your right - not all IA I blocks are bad -but as Jack has compared several of both series of blocks - he is right - the IA II is hands down a better piece.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.spottsperformance.com East Coast Pontiac engine builder - still going strong 4 month waiting list email spotfam@verizon.net 1981 Trans Am 455 w/6X heads 4 speed 4 wheel disc (for sale) 1969 Trans Am clone 9.79 at 139 so far 1964 Banshee clone project - Opel GT platform |
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I've got 2 of the original IA blocks. One is as manufactured, the other is basically a complete engine. 4.44 bore, and the sonic shows that I could safely go another .005. Filling the block would give me a bunch more. This engine has a 5" billit crank, to make 619 inches. The bare block hasn't been soniced yet, but I don't plan on making more than 541 inches (maybe only 535) out of it, anyway. So you guys with the first IA blocks, they'll make a lot more of an engine than than a stock block!
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Bill 64 GTO, tube chassis w/606" IA tall deck, PG & a pro geared Fab 9". 2750 lbs. 8.2550@164.17-1/4, 5.2901@131.97-1/8, 1.1981-60-ft. 8/10/08 |
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But given the improvements of the IA-2, and the IA-2 price new, wouldn't that drive the price of a good IA-1 down to $1500-$1800 territory?
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since when is the Ia 2 3300? I picked up 2 last thursday, and it was 3,101.00 out the door.
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77 Trans Am All Steel, on 10" tires 8.30 @ 165 mph 3,380 LBS Mat it! Spray it! Chute it! Just another 8 Second Pass! |
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i just bought a used IA I complete shortblock for my streeter. Would much rather have it than a stock block. If u guys are throwing away the IAs, I will take them.
I am sure there are a lot of improvements in the new block out now.
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1963 Cat SD Clone (old school) streeter 1964 GTO post coupe, tripower, 4speed (build) 1965 GTO 389 tripower, 4 speed, driver 1966 GTO dragcar 1966 GTO Ragtop 1969 Tempest ET clone street/strip 1969 GTO Judge RA lll, auto 1969 GTO limelight Conv. 4speed go and show (sold) 1970 GP SSJ 1970 GTO barn find..TLB…390 horse?….yeh, 390 1972 GTO 455 HO, 4 speed, (build) 1973 Grand Safari wagon, 700hp stoplight sleeper 525ci DCI & 609ci LM V head builds |
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> since when is the Ia 2 3300? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Butler has them for 2995.00, plus surcharge of 107.00, then if I remember to finish bore is another 100.00, then plug kit, and oil pump drive! So, 3200.00 either way 3200 or 3300. just a comparison.
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WDCreech do you need any tall deck parts i have some thanks jack
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IM BUILDING AN IA 1 BLOCK, IV HAD IT CHECKED FOR EVERY POSSIBLE FLAW, IT CHECKED OUT PERFECT, NO THIN SPOTS IN THE BLOCK ACCORDING TO THE SONIC TESTING, NO POROSITY PROBLEMS IN THE BLOCK, NO OIL PASSAGES DRILLED INTO THE WATER JACKETS.I DO HAVE ONE OF THE FIRST RUN BLOCKS, FROM WHAT I HEARD THE RIST RUN BLOCKS WERE FINE, MINE IS A TALL DECK BLOCK AS WELL,IF I RECALL CORRECTLY ACCORDING TO BUTLER ONLY 43 TALL DECK BLOCKS WERE MADE.JUST REMEMBER, ANY AFTERMARKET BLOCK SHOULD BE CHECKE3D OUT, NO MATTER WHAT , BE IT CHEVY, FORD, MOPAR, PONTIAC ETC, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE STOCK BLOCKS CHECKED DONT WE?, AND BESIDES, ANY IA BLOCK IS BETTER THAN A STOCK BLOCK EVEN A WORSE CASE SCENARIO.
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Greatgto make sure the bottom main studs dont't leak water in the pan after you get it running my tall deck split up #4 main cap to the cam bearing had a water trace down the cap and you could see the rust in the oil pan where it was leaking thanks jack
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If the IA 1 block has no issues, then why not?
Also depends on your final goal and hp needs. For $1300 difference it might be worth looking into. But the new redesigned IA 2 block is Awesome and no comparision to the IA 1 block as far as pour, quality, upgrades for more hp and torque capability. |
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lots of improvments to the Ia2
thicker cylinder walls Registered mains Screw in freeze plugs comes already dry decked nice tapped flange on the back for water lines thicker front wall behind the water pump IA 1 s were ok but they dont compare to the IA2
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77 Trans Am All Steel, on 10" tires 8.30 @ 165 mph 3,380 LBS Mat it! Spray it! Chute it! Just another 8 Second Pass! |
#20
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The best choice (not sure why it wasn't listed)would be to purchase the new IAII block from WWW.ICTCengines.com ...Seriously!!!
It's worth the extra cash to go with the revised block. -Rob |
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