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Old 12-28-2019, 03:12 PM
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So what kind of a ET difference would there typically be when running at 4300 feet in elevation then going to sea level? Thanks

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Old 12-28-2019, 03:24 PM
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http://www.wallaceracing.com/da-et.php

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Old 12-28-2019, 03:26 PM
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From the Wallace Racing site 11.95/116 at 4300 equates to 11.51/120.44 at sea level.

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From the Wallace Racing site 11.95/116 at 4300 equates to 11.51/120.44 at sea level.
Thank you

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The dragtimes calculator using stock or mildly modified engines has been more accurate and predictable for https://www.dragtimes.com/da-density...ect+ET+and+MPH

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Old 12-31-2019, 09:19 AM
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For a more accurate calculator, use this one:

Calc New ET


Using DA is not real accurate.


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I wish I was racing down at 4300 LOL.

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There is a lot more to it than just the DA

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There is a lot more to it than just the DA
You got that right!
Depends a lot on how much you can compensate. For instance, a power-adder engine could be tuned to totally compensate.
And- for a fast machine the thin air creates less aero drag.

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[QUOTE=pokey1;6095022]So what kind of a ET difference would there typically be when running at 4300 feet in elevation then going to sea level? Thanks[/QUOTE

Your very basic question references an elevation change only. My very basic answer will assume similar atmospheric conditions at the two elevations, thus meaning the elevation change will result in a similar change in Density Altitude (DA).


My experience has shown about a tenth of a second ET change for every 1000’ in DA change. A 4K change will require a tune-up (jet) change as well. So, if you were to rejet, you will pick up about four tenths.

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