View Single Post
  #96  
Old 10-14-2021, 03:36 PM
TRADERMIKE 2012 TRADERMIKE 2012 is offline
Suspended
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Coconut creek FL
Posts: 1,171
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tekuhn View Post
Here’s my summary of what’s been learned from this thread:

SOMEBODY installed a ‘66 TriPower and a ‘58 - ‘62 camshaft on a ‘67 428 engine, AND

transplanted the engine into a late ‘70’s Firebird prior to your purchase of it. The

engine block has some numbers stamped on it that the factory did not do. No one has

been able to produce pictures or documentation of engines with similar markings that

might help determine who made the markings and what they mean.

You have received numerous responses from people who have been in the Pontiac game a

very long time and who have been around some very exotic factory rare pieces, and all

of them are giving their opinion that what you have is a nice 428 that someone did

some parts swapping on. I tend to agree. The biggest reason to me, is the camshaft.

Why would a dealer install that old Cam when the current TriPower Cam (068) would

have been readily available and provided higher performance?

As you surmised, unless you can find original owner of the original car, you will

never know the story.

No rudeness is intended.
Mike Here: None Taken, thank you for your reply.

Your probably correct and I believe you. I am looking at both sides. I never

experienced the "068" or "067" Cam, even though they appear to be close to my Cam

specs. Why are "068" or "067" Cam an upgrade to my 428 ci HO Tri-Power Engine that

contains my specific Cammed Engine.

I can see that on a 4bbl Version of the 428 ci HO using the Intake designed for it,

there would be an Improvement. The 1966 421 ci with the Tri-Power system and "067 or

068" is equal to the 428 ci HO with a 4bbl from what I read, because of the

additional displacement only...Now the 428 ci HO motor does not know that one put the

3 Tri-Power Carbs. on it or the # 886 cam or Tri-Power Intake on it.

Despite the" Edict" the 428 ci HO with the "886" Cam and Tri-Power Carbs. and Intake

Manifold is better than the 4bbl on the 428 ci with Eather the "068 or 067" Cam. So,

where is this improvement you're talking about. I say that the cam # 886 belongs with

a Tri-Power system and works well because it was tried and tested for 10 years prier.

Try to factor in that the Tri-Power Intake is unique to the Tri-Power system and

designed through the years to performance standards. The "670" Heads with larger

valves help to. Keeping to 1967 only before you go into round port heads, please.

Also, the "068 or 067" Cams are said to be "HO" Cams not Tri-Power cams. The only Cam

designated so is # 524886 from the list I read. After 1966 there were no Factory

Installed Tri-Power units but you can buy them over the counter. The Forum people say

many GTO's carry them when after 1966 they were not correct. Of course, there were

the Divisions that did not follow the band on Tri-Power after the "Edict" was imposed

by GM Corporation.

They continued to use them, some longer than others and that is Why I Hope mine is

one. Story behind my Engine is this: A Moon shiner went off a Cliff while Running

from the Cops in the Carolinas, the Engine was salvaged and sold to my friend who

since passed away. So, since Moon shiners are known to be race car drivers and only a

race car driver would know to use the Tri-Power Cam in a 4-bolt main 428 ci HO (one

of 1045) to exist, I quickly deduced "Could this Engine have Nasar Provenance? "The

earliest known history of something". Now if you call me a dreamer, I would

understand. Mike out.