[TRADERMIKE 2012]

[QUOTE=78w72; 6466333] This is not my product, it's AMSOIL's, the link was for information.
Mike said:
"I can't see any reason "not" to use Trans., fluid."

Did you read the article? Ans. Finally, yes, I did!

MIKE SAID: HERE IS THAT ARTICLE, READ DOWN SOME BELOW!

Quote of the day by me: "Mike would not sell you on an idea unless he used that idea himself and found it to work".


You said:
It gives about 4 or 5 rather important reasons to "NOT" use it. Amsoil does not back your technique, they mentioned it was a DIY thing and there are better products to use. Seafoam used the right way is better than ATF IMO.

For the majority of DIY guys that did/do use ATF as a cleaner, its usually 1-2 qts added to oil, not 100% ATF, there are no lubrication properties in ATF like an engine oil to protect the internals of the engine, that would be the worst thing for any engine regardless of age, but if that's how you insist doing it... carry on.
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What does the PY forum say: Vote ATF for Mike or Amsoil for 78w72. Only one vote per member, don't forget to read the small print...HA
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Mikes reply:

The AMSOIL cost: $14.69/pt x 16 pt (2gl) = $235.04, if you use it "FULL Strength" as Mike is.

Once upon a time, around the Valve Stem debate, you accused me of believing in what the manufacturer of their product thought about their own product, "was not true and that I bought into their hype". You're doing that now by thinking that your Amsoil product will clean Mikes motor better than Mike using (2 gal) of ATF that costs:

$13 x 2 = $26 Bucks'.

I propose this: "if we were to clean both your and my Motors, using our preferred products and methods, both Motors will be equally as clean at the end of the day and I can do it for less money. There is absolutely no bad reason to use (2 gal) of ATF" full strength", while running in an Engine like a Pontiac 428 ci HO. It won't hurt any of the internal parts of an Engine over one half-hours' time. This has been tested on several Motors by Mike and I can attest to this as being Factual and in a court of law I would attest to this statement...

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Automatic transmission clutch plates pre-cleanup.
(above) Automatic transmission clutch plates pre-cleanup. Varnish and glazing is heavy on some of the plates.
Automatic transmission clutch plates after cleanup.
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(above) Cylinder head pre-cleanup. Note the sludge deposits on and around the valve springs and push rod openings.
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(above) Cylinder head after cleanup with AMSOIL Engine and Transmission Flush. The valve springs and push rod openings are noticeably cleaner, with fewer sludge deposits. The manufacturer's stamping is more easily seen.
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You said:
"Did you read the article?? It gives about 4 or 5 rather important reasons to NOT use it."

Mikes reply: PLEASE LIST THE 5 REASONS ABOVE THAT HAVE AMSOIL SAYING "DONT USE ATF".

Note: I would bet that the main ingredient in their product is petroleum distillates, an active ingredient in ATF.

Note: The Amsoil product uses: "Due to its detergent-based formulation, it can be easily disposed of with waste oil, making it more user-friendly. Its advanced formula of light base oil technology, powerful detergents and dispersants provides safe cleaning action"

(1) Detergent-based formulation.

(2) Avanced formula of light base oil technology.

(3) Powerful detergents and dispersants.

(4) Detergent-based formula cleans sludge and deposit build-up.


Note: All of these ingredients are in Trans. fluid, just in different quantities. IMO