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Forum: Pontiac - Street 12-01-2021, 11:29 PM
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Posted By Formulajones
That's most likely because of the tune. The LS...

That's most likely because of the tune. The LS engine, particularly with the passenger car intakes, have a tendency to run the #7 cylinder lean. When I was tuning them it was pretty common to...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 12-01-2021, 09:23 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
Okay, I was just reading it from one of the other...

Okay, I was just reading it from one of the other guys, I didn't see the actual post.
Last time I was here the other day there were only 8 pages?? I get a notification and now there are 11 or 12 ...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 12-01-2021, 05:55 PM
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Posted By Formulajones
That's where I differ from many people that...

That's where I differ from many people that consider themselves a "car enthusiast"

Not that I advocate doing it, but I can appreciate a classic car no matter what it is. Building and...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 12-01-2021, 05:43 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
LOL there are always going to be some Pontiac...

LOL there are always going to be some Pontiac loyals that turn a blind eye.

I lost track of this thread a couple pages ago, and looks like it hasn't changed.

So I'm not sure where someone...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-30-2021, 12:52 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
Sure you can, it's not complicated at all. I...

Sure you can, it's not complicated at all. I can tell you any engine I build from scratch, by the time I completely go through it and do it right, I'm spending about $10k. That's if I have the...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-30-2021, 12:42 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
That's really the problem. Brand loyalty causes...

That's really the problem. Brand loyalty causes blindness and narrow mind style thinking. That's just the way people are. Not just Pontiac but most any car group. I see it all the time owning...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-30-2021, 12:36 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
What you're commenting on really isn't the norm. ...

What you're commenting on really isn't the norm. Not sure where you're finding noisy lifters on LS engines. I hear more complaints about noisy lifters on this Pontiac site than anywhere else...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-30-2021, 11:18 AM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
Usually these conversations go a lot like this :D...

Usually these conversations go a lot like this :D

https://youtu.be/2--CkDdAIlo
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-30-2021, 11:06 AM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
LOL I know you're poking fun, but there are...

LOL

I know you're poking fun, but there are many who think that way. Makes me wonder how someone like that can even enjoy a hobby like this. They must be a blast to hang around at get togethers...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-30-2021, 11:05 AM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
The reality is that the risk is extremely low...

The reality is that the risk is extremely low when buying an LS engine. Much lower than if you found a 50 year old classic car engine. That's just the way it is.

Besides, if you use a big...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-30-2021, 10:59 AM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
Almost every LS swap I saw at Goodguys last...

Almost every LS swap I saw at Goodguys last weekend (and there were 100's of them) were done in such a way to make them at least look a little bit easier on the eye's. They make so much stuff for...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-30-2021, 10:42 AM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
You can absolutely compare. That's exactly what...

You can absolutely compare. That's exactly what people are doing and why they are making these decisions.

They are going for what makes the most sense economically, that's what they are...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-29-2021, 09:55 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
You're right (did I just say that? :D) ...

You're right (did I just say that? :D)
You'll hear this stuff from different camps. I heard some of it even way back when I put the LS in my 72 Blazer before it became a thing. Didn't...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-29-2021, 09:42 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
It's all good with me. We have Fords, Chevys,...

It's all good with me. We have Fords, Chevys, and Pontiacs in the stable. One Pontiac I had came factory with a SBC in it (71 Ventura Sprint) I actually got a kick out of the look on peoples...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-29-2021, 05:52 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
That has a turbo on it lol

That has a turbo on it lol
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 07:30 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
......... :D

......... :D
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 07:18 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
The factory tunes in those things are weak. Most...

The factory tunes in those things are weak. Most of the trucks come with a timing table that are in the single digits, and a WOT air fuel ratio that is pig rich in PE mode, usually around 11 flat. ...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 07:09 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
There were plenty of fast LS builds when I was...

There were plenty of fast LS builds when I was playing with them. Most all of them were in the 4th gen F-body platform. Had a couple of buddies that played with them all the time. One ran...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 06:36 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
As far as carbs vs EFI, Both of our dailys have...

As far as carbs vs EFI, Both of our dailys have carbs if that tells you anything.

As far as carbs go I either like original OEM holleys or a Qjet. Either are easy to tune. I like aftermarket...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 06:20 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
That's similar to my 454 with minor differences. ...

That's similar to my 454 with minor differences. Same AFR 305 heads, Comp custom 242/248 hydraulic roller with .638 lift. My compression is only 10.2 and mine is only .030 over. I built this...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 06:11 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
I believe it, but looking at how big the engine...

I believe it, but looking at how big the engine is, cubic inch vs cubic inch, it's hard to argue the power the LS puts out for it's size.
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 04:03 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
Here's an example of one of my own that touches...

Here's an example of one of my own that touches on what I meant in post 17.

This blazer was my daily for years. Transmission started slipping so my first thought was perfect time to stick an...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 03:47 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
Yeah I touched on that earlier. They make...

Yeah I touched on that earlier. They make fantastic power for their size. Something I found right off the bat with my first LS back in 97. Just a cam swap and some headers/exhaust and I put...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 03:37 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
Cost is the first thing that comes to my mind. ...

Cost is the first thing that comes to my mind.

Absolutely you can make power with Pontiac, plenty of aftermarket support. But what does it cost to get you where you want to be? Especially if you...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 11-28-2021, 12:25 PM
Replies: 241
Views: 26,968
Posted By Formulajones
:clap2: Nail on the head right there. I've...

:clap2:
Nail on the head right there. I've mentioned this in the past. Just can't go anywhere and grab a low mile Pontiac, stab a cam in and make power. Those days are long gone.
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