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68lemans462 02-14-2023 12:25 PM

Questions about Tanks, Inc with GPA-4 pump
 
I purchased the Tanks, Inc EFI tank with GPA-4 pump to replace my mallory 140 (which died AGAIN last OCT). This tank appears to be very high quality.. I really like it!

I have configured the pump according to the instructions but it appears to be roughly 1/8" too long and as a result the pump is hitting the bottom of the tank. I contacted Tanks, inc yesterday and they said this "shouldnt" happen and to email them pictures. They havent responded and were not helpful.. at all...

The only solution I see is to remove the pump and cut 3/8" or so off the housing "nipple" for the supply which would allow the pump to move further up once the black tube was trimmed more. Right now the pump inlet is butted up against the nipple on the housing. See the picture with the screwdriver pointing in this spot.. Has anyone else run into this?

Pics here: https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...gZYA_aqedgqY6F

Scott65 02-14-2023 12:43 PM

One question, cause I can't tell from the pics, is the inlet filter completely engaged? It would still be close, but with the gasket, and another 1/8" or so engagement it would probably be ok. Probably there's some of the dreaded "tolerance stack" happening here.

grivera 02-14-2023 12:46 PM

That is odd - I have the 255 LPH pump with a Tanks Inc tank in my 69 bird and had no issues with bottoming out - hard to believe the bird tank would be deeper. Are you able to trim the barbed nipple that comes off the plate? Also, the gasket will help a little.

Tom Vaught 02-14-2023 12:52 PM

On a second look at the pictures, I would say the outlet hose from the Fuel Pump to the flange just needs to be shortened
a bit more for sock clearance at the bottom of the tank.

Tom V.

Scott65 02-14-2023 12:52 PM

You probably shouldn't trim that fitting. I believe it has a barb at the end (and only at the end) to aid retention.

68lemans462 02-14-2023 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott65 (Post 6408057)
One question, cause I can't tell from the pics, is the inlet filter completely engaged? It would still be close, but with the gasket, and another 1/8" or so engagement it would probably be ok. Probably there's some of the dreaded "tolerance stack" happening here.

This is the same thing the guy at Tanks asked me. Just checked, again, and the filter appears to be all the way in.

68lemans462 02-14-2023 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott65 (Post 6408063)
You probably shouldn't trim that fitting. I believe it has a barb at the end (and only at the end) to aid retention.

Thats what i was thinking... Trying not to "bubba" the dang thing but I dont think it will work properly as-is...

grivera 02-14-2023 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott65 (Post 6408063)
You probably shouldn't trim that fitting. I believe it has a barb at the end (and only at the end) to aid retention.

IIRC, the barbed fitting on the plate(top) is brass with multiple steps

68lemans462 02-14-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Vaught (Post 6408062)
Personally I would have a machinist friend make me a "Donut" that was 1/2" tall
with 2 "any fuel" capable "O-Ring Grooves" machined in the plate and mount the pump on the tank with 6 longer "Allen Head" screws, drilled for safety wire.

On some of the Tanks,inc and other tanks there is a "C" shaped part that has the studs
inserted in the plate and nuts go on the top of the pump flange.

Either way you just need to raise the pump so that it can be installed properly.

Tom V.

If I was going to engineer my own setup I wouldnt spend $600 on a package that shouldnt need engineering or modification.. :rolleyes:

Scott65 02-14-2023 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 68lemans462 (Post 6408064)
This is the same thing the guy at Tanks asked me. Just checked, again, and the filter appears to be all the way in.

Is the nub on the pump sticking completely through the hole in the filter?

JLMounce 02-14-2023 01:05 PM

When I installed the GAP-4 module into my Tanks Inc tank, I did have to trim the outlet (black) hose to get it to fit properly. In fact the instructions specifically stated that you would need to measure first, then trim to length.

If due to the length of pump output nipple and barbed fitting, you no longer have room to trim the output hose, you may consider gluing a couple cork gaskets together. The pickup sock should sit very lightly on the bottom of the sump without being crushed in any way.

Tom Vaught 02-14-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 68lemans462 (Post 6408067)
If I was going to engineer my own setup I wouldnt spend $600 on a package that shouldnt need engineering or modification.. :rolleyes:

I agree, I have a Tanks,inc gas tank for a 64 GTO in the car.

I modified the single pump opening so that I could run a Pump Mount
with two E-85 compatible 450 liter per hr fuel pumps.

Not that difficult. And my wife did not spend $600 on the Tanks,inc parts.
She just bought the tank, I did the rest.

Tom V.

400 Lemans 02-14-2023 01:33 PM

https://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/p...rod/prd632.htm Try the thicker 3/8 gasket.

68lemans462 02-14-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 400 Lemans (Post 6408076)

Interesting.. Shocked that they didnt recommend this when I called.

I went out and yanked the feed tube to the pump off. I was able to trim it down a little further and my assumption that the pump and housing were butted up was incorrect! I can get it to about 5 7/8" with the units butted up to each other.. Guess this will work with even without a thick gasket... Looking forward to getting this tank in! Thanks guys


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