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weranc55 05-11-2021 06:47 PM

68 Ra2. Need a list of all that incorrect
 
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I would like to freshen up the engine compartment this summer. Planning on pulling the motor. I don’t know Ra2’s that well and want to correct as much as I can. This is what I have so far.

Clutch fan incorrect
Heat shield?
Clamp on ps hose
Wrong master
Temp sending unit

Scott Thelander 05-11-2021 07:30 PM

I dont wanna be the guy but ,,,

being a 68 guy by heart

its lookin goood underthere ,,,,,,,,,,!!!
a few tid bits maybe ...

incorrect oil fill cap
no front alternator bracket
wrong water pump bolts ?? I dont see the cross hatch heads ...
over flow hose clip on radiator ,,,, radiator tag ,,
dual carb spring?? color s yellow n blue
425 coil ,,,,, hmmmm
wrong nut on the power steering pump maybe also ,,, I see alot of castle lock nuts on ole originals

nice to see you use it !!!

any running you tube videos ???

4 speed also eh !!??

nice !!!

weranc55 05-11-2021 07:46 PM

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Thanks yup 4 speed.

These correct?

Scott Thelander 05-11-2021 08:51 PM

not really
and
yes
hopefully some one has some originals for you ,,,
I have seen a couple engine s with brackets that the slots dont line up welll
always wondered ifone was a repro and 1 an original ,,, like one slot was longer than the other bracket,,,
and
fairly sure we had a big S on the rivet in the center,,,
I would just add a couple correct items under your hood and keep drivin it !!
I enjoy looking at nice driven original cars .... rather than shiney restos

Brewster 05-11-2021 09:02 PM

Looks nice why pulling it? The only thing my old eye's notice is that Oil Fill Cap. Throw on a AC-FC2 is my guess but most likely wrong ;) Nothing like learning a new year let alone new hp motor. Enjoy and do keep sharing. Cheers

OG68 05-12-2021 12:06 AM

Not an expert with the RAII but;

Coil should be a 288.
My original oil cap looks like yours

Tellyshavilli 05-12-2021 12:12 AM

Get a original carb on there to 7028273 XX
And your clutch fan is wrong Get a 4 blade cheapey

weranc55 05-12-2021 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tellyshavilli (Post 6249338)
Get a original carb on there to 7028273 XX
And your clutch fan is wrong Get a 4 blade cheapey

Four blade or 5?

68pongto 05-12-2021 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by weranc55 (Post 6249341)
Four blade or 5?

No, all 68 Ram Air cars used the standard 4 blade fan like this. Also, your water pump pulley should be plated silver cad/zink, not painted black.

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weranc55 05-12-2021 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 68pongto (Post 6249597)
No, all 68 Ram Air cars used the standard 4 blade fan like this. Also, your water pump pulley should be plated silver cad/zink, not painted black.

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Thanks

weranc55 05-13-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 68pongto (Post 6249597)
No, all 68 Ram Air cars used the standard 4 blade fan like this. Also, your water pump pulley should be plated silver cad/zink, not painted black.

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What spacer do I need?

gtoguys 05-13-2021 11:32 AM

The distributor vacuum solenoid should have a green cover. Black was for the standard engine with 3 or 4 speed.

Mcronk 05-22-2021 11:37 PM

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Unless you can find an original no one reproduces the green cover. However you can get creative and paint it to be green. There was an original on ebay a while back. I used it for reference.

Nice to see original set of RA II exhaust manifolds. I got lucky and found a nice set. I had them coated by Jet Hot.

I made some changes from stock configuration. I "by passed" the factory vacum advance routing (its there for correct look) but found my car likes vacuum from intake port (full vacum). Carb is a 263 not 273 ( 263 is correct 68 manual transmission). Distributor is a early 68 manual transmission code modified with single advance port like correct RA II distributor. I had sold Jim Mino the last correct fan blade and spacer I had. Also talked to him about distributors and vacum routing before he passed. He sent me pictures of a RA II distributor he just restored.

I find these RA II cars intriguing. In fact 68 GTO has a lot of "one year only" parts much like the RA II engines.

My car is not a concourse car but am trying to make it mostly correct.

Tellyshavilli 05-23-2021 12:24 AM

I have a couple green vacuum multipliers and a 7028273

weranc55 05-23-2021 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mcronk (Post 6252174)
Unless you can find an original no one reproduces the green cover. However you can get creative and paint it to be green. There was an original on ebay a while back. I used it for reference.

Nice to see original set of RA II exhaust manifolds. I got lucky and found a nice set. I had them coated by Jet Hot.

I made some changes from stock configuration. I "by passed" the factory vacum advance routing (its there for correct look) but found my car likes vacuum from intake port (full vacum). Carb is a 263 not 273 ( 263 is correct 68 manual transmission). Distributor is a early 68 manual transmission code modified with single advance port like correct RA II distributor. I had sold Jim Mino the last correct fan blade and spacer I had. Also talked to him about distributors and vacum routing before he passed. He sent me pictures of a RA II distributor he just restored.

I find these RA II cars intriguing. In fact 68 GTO has a lot of "one year only" parts much like the RA II engines.

My car is not a concourse car but am trying to make it mostly correct.

Very nice. Please post a pic of your fan setup. No heat shield on the manifold?

Baron Von Zeppelin 05-23-2021 11:29 AM

Somewhere i have a 68 4-Blade Fan and Spacer from a 68 Catalina 400 2bbl.
Was mint when pulled the engine in 1981 to rebuild. Never assembled it.
Painted everything Gold & Grey, so that will make it easier to locate in 2021.
It will be the only Gold Fan i have :D

Not sure if they are date coded or ID stamped (AA for example)

Have a 68 Ram2 PMD Buildsheet to pull codes from for fan & spacer.
Just need to verify it didn't have any HD Fan option on the Buildsheet car.
Or on your Car.
Buildsheet is from GTO Wolf 68 TripleBlk Ram2

The Aegena Blue Ram2 4spd had a driver side Exh Shroud when found.
Sort of backs up the idea that the cars were shipped with the single snork breather mounted.

Baron Von Zeppelin 05-23-2021 11:35 AM

The PY member who rescued and restored the Aegena Blue Ram2 posted a lot of reference pics about the car/engine pieces iirc

Don't remember if its in this thread or if he started another thread.
His user name was something like yellow66gto or something along that line if you want to search the forum for his posts.

PS - the Fan & Spacer would be Catalina Price , not Ram2/JudgeConvertible Price
.... for YOUR car , or anyone who owns a documented Deuce. No prospectors need bother to inquire

Mcronk 05-23-2021 12:01 PM

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First two engine pictures are of the Aegena Blue car. It is a automatic manual steering and brakes so a few differences. I have attached pictures of the fan and spacer I sold Jim Mino. They came off a 68 Tempest Custom 350 2bbl. Also will attach pictures of Jim Mattisons RA II GTO that sold at BJ in 2016 (last engine picture). It is very correct but does appear to wear reproduction RAIV exhaust manifolds.

I have seen pictures of the heat shield. From what information I have gathered the cars were shipped with closed hood scoops and standard air cleaner/heat shield. The RA pans and open scoops were in the trunk. Dealers installed them and painted the scoops to match the car.

Baron Von Zeppelin 05-23-2021 12:08 PM

The Automatic Aegena Deuce was from Muscle_Collector stock.

The 4spd Aegena Deuce was a field find on eBay - different car.
Was being sold as a parts car/project on eBay and he scooped it up for cheap.
Very un-touched in engine bay/engine departments
yellow66gto or something like that
He had as-found engine / engine bay pics

Exh Shield was present as-found , still mounted in place.

Mcronk 05-23-2021 12:18 PM

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Thanks for clarifiation. Did not know there were two documented Aegena Blue cars out there. The pictures I have were from the MCACN event. I am collecting as much information about these as I can to better educate myself and correct things on my car. Picture attached is the car that I showed engine pictures for.


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