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johnta1 03-05-2024 09:40 AM

1970 Granada Gold GTO - EUN
 
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This is on ebay:

Ebay ad


The partial VIN on engine is a Canada built A body VIN.
The build date on the Granada Gold Baltimore GTO is the correct date for that engine also - 11B. ( along with the Canada VIN for that engine)

The car was also sold about 11 months after built. (according to the sales sheet)

If engine swapped what's chance of getting this in just about perfect order?

If the original engine was pulled at factory and replaced, it wouldn't have had a Canada partial VIN?
(meaning the Canada engine was sent back to Pontiac then re-sent to Baltimore if it was also being pulled in Canada?)

EUN chart of the EUN (the red text is for the Gold GTO)

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1709645985


:confused:

GTOnly70 03-05-2024 02:21 PM

That color is really off. Way too much tan for Granada Gold.

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-05-2024 11:14 PM

I'm only getting 13 pictures showing on the listing.
None with any particulars or documents.
No help

Sometimes my browser doesn't get all the content on eBay.
Also a real big problem on Mecum site too.

johnta1 03-06-2024 07:48 AM

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Here are the eun and engine VIN along with the car's VIN and cowl tag


https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1709725592


https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1709725592


https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1709725592




https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1709725592


:)

johnta1 03-06-2024 07:50 AM

Also, the last 3 digits of both VINs are the same. Just a coincidence probably. Not sure of the car's VIN, though? (rivets?)


:confused:

Held for Ransom 03-06-2024 10:07 AM

Ask member Kenth for his input on the EUN stamping. And rivet orientation.

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-06-2024 01:27 PM

Seems like total coincidence.
The EUN appears large and largely spaced , but it might be an illusion.

I'm more interested in the 11 month sales gap.
Does the Invoice make it appear to have been a zone inventory car ?
Or more like a wallflower that warmed the bench on a dealers lot ?

vertigto 03-06-2024 04:08 PM

Color looks too light to me also...see pic below of mine.

johnta1 03-06-2024 04:26 PM

Quote:

Does the Invoice make it appear to have been a zone inventory car ?

No. The buildsheet shows the dealership and was customer ordered. Also has Nov. date I think.
Don't know if it sat on dealer lot for 11 months.


:confused:

johnta1 03-06-2024 04:35 PM

The Canada partial VIN is also inline with the EUN sequences.
Both VINs are inline with the sequence.
That's why it's so interesting. It could have had an engine from the line in Canada and put into the Baltimore plant GTO.


:eek:

Held for Ransom 03-06-2024 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6490437)
I'm only getting 13 pictures showing on the listing.
None with any particulars or documents.
No help

Sometimes my browser doesn't get all the content on eBay.
Also a real big problem on Mecum site too.


See if this link helps...
https://vmp.ebay.com/ebay/viewAllPho...smid=126129373

Held for Ransom 03-06-2024 09:03 PM

I wonder if the car was ordered by a serviceman.

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-06-2024 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Held for Ransom (Post 6490634)

Thanks Ransom
That worked .

Really weird
Customer hand picked order in Nov 1969
Sold as New in Oct 1970

Maybe the dealer lied about the order status to get the car built with higher preference ?
Sure turned into a Lot Lizard
And probably will be again . :rolleyes:

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjMwWDc5M...7.JPG?set_id=2

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDEwN...7.JPG?set_id=2

gtojeff1967 03-07-2024 09:25 AM

The ebay add said not original drive train. it need a lot of work chevy rims, 3 tachometers, let throw wing on there but don't paint it but wreck the decklid, put jack on the oil pan.


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