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sglemans 08-05-2023 02:07 PM

71 Lemans 350 intake question
 
Will an intake manifold from a 1966 Bonneville fit on a 71 350 2 bbl Lemans engine? I believe it has a Carter 4bbl.
Also will the Carter carb work with the existing linkages etc.?

hurryinhoosier62 08-05-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sglemans (Post 6445092)
Will an intake manifold from a 1966 Bonneville fit on a 71 350 2 bbl Lemans engine? I believe it has a Carter 4bbl.
Also will the Carter carb work with the existing linkages etc.?

No. ‘69 and up use a different intake than the earlier engines.

sglemans 08-05-2023 02:43 PM

Shoot that's too bad someone was going to give me it for free. So it physically won't fit, or is it more a configuration thing?

b-man 08-05-2023 02:51 PM

Not so fast now…..

1965 and later intakes all interchange onto 1965 and later engines. It’s the 1964 and earlier intakes that are configured differently where they mate up to the heads. There was a minor design change in 1972 concerning the exhaust heat crossover but it doesn’t apply in your case.

The 1966 intake is a direct fit to your 1971 engine, however the accelerator cable pivot will have to perhaps be messed with a little but chances are good that you can hook it up to the carb with minimal hassle.

You might need a 1966 4-barrel cable bracket but the 1971 2-barrel bracket may work. Fuel line is going to have to be adapted but that’s really no big deal.

steve25 08-05-2023 04:28 PM

B man is correct, it will bolt right on fine and will be a bit of a power improvement over the 71 2 bbl set up, assuming you have a AFB carb in good shape.


Another linkage issue is that the Bonnie had a TB400 trans which throttle down shifted by a switch on the top of the gas pedal, your 71 has a down shift cable.

If it does not matter to you you can just down shift manually and not even use the cable, but the cable then must be kept restrained out all the way position as if it WAS hooked up to the carb.

If this is not done harm will be done to the trans.

Dragncar 08-05-2023 04:34 PM

Hey, I have a couple of AFB intakes. One is flat the other has a little rise to it.
Are those the 2 basic types or is there more ?

PunchT37 08-05-2023 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragncar (Post 6445134)
Hey, I have a couple of AFB intakes. One is flat the other has a little rise to it.
Are those the 2 basic types or is there more ?

Maybe one is `64 and earlier and the other is `65 and up?

b-man 08-05-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragncar (Post 6445134)
Hey, I have a couple of AFB intakes. One is flat the other has a little rise to it.
Are those the 2 basic types or is there more ?

I’m pretty sure they don’t have much rise to them but there may be some differences. It’s pretty easy to tell the 1964 and earlier ones from the 1965 and later just looking at water passage shapes. Plus the 1964 and earlier have a round exhaust crossover passage not rectangular like later ones.

Check the date codes which are usually next to the thermostat opening.

grandam1979 08-05-2023 05:08 PM

Question is will the heat riser line up or leak?

PunchT37 08-05-2023 06:01 PM

Heat riser should be good. `72 and up is a change. The heads will use peanut plugs when that change happened.

steve25 08-05-2023 06:03 PM

The exh crossover size changed in 72.

77 TRASHCAN 08-05-2023 06:22 PM

Isn't there a fel pro intake gasket with an insert that eliminates the heat riser issue?

steve25 08-05-2023 07:01 PM

Yes and it burns thru eventually, but if its a seasonal car it should last years, but his intended swap is a bolt on.

sglemans 08-06-2023 03:32 PM

Steve25, the one on mine is a Rochester 2bbl, will the Carter 4bbl fit with no linkage issues?

sglemans 08-06-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sglemans (Post 6445353)
Steve25, the one on mine is a Rochester 2bbl, will the Carter 4bbl fit with no linkage issues?

I'm assuming mine is a T350 trans

hurryinhoosier62 08-06-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sglemans (Post 6445102)
Shoot that's too bad someone was going to give me it for free. So it physically won't fit, or is it more a configuration thing?

The ‘69 and up factory manifolds are a better manifold

Schurkey 08-06-2023 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by steve25 (Post 6445127)
If it does not matter to you you can just down shift manually and not even use the cable, but the cable then must be kept restrained out all the way position as if it WAS hooked up to the carb.

If this is not done harm will be done to the trans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sglemans (Post 6445354)
I'm assuming mine is a T350 trans

If the car genuinely has a TH350, then the cable controls only the kickdown--NOT like a '700 where the cable works the throttle valve in the valve body.

The kickdown cable for a TH350 should NOT be pulled out all the way and secured, because then the trans would be in kickdown mode all the time.





(It would make me crazy to not have a functioning kickdown on a small engine in a fairly-big car.)

sglemans 08-06-2023 07:51 PM

it's a 3 spd auto with a 2 bbl 350 so I would guess it's either a T350 or a T400?

b-man 08-06-2023 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier62 (Post 6445422)
The ‘69 and up factory manifolds are a better manifold

Sure the 1967 and up Quadrajet intakes are better but that’s beside the point of this thread. He’s getting a 1966 AFB intake and carb for free (that you told him would not fit) and that’s still a very nice improvement over his current 2-barrel setup.

Here’s a nice 1965 389 build with ported #76 heads and a stock 1965 AFB intake:

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=836191

It made 400 hp so most definitely that freebie 1966 4-barrel setup will more than satisfy the needs of his stock 350, plus it will bolt right on.

b-man 08-06-2023 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sglemans (Post 6445434)
it's a 3 spd auto with a 2 bbl 350 so I would guess it's either a T350 or a T400?

Most likely a TH350, look for the kickdown cable attached to the carburetor linkage.


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