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Bill Eveland 04-17-2024 09:43 PM

Summit racing drops speedmaster products
 
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Due to speedmaster copying and counterfeiting parts . Wonder how far this will fall down the line.

Speedmaster heads may not be around to long who knows.

Video of the copied parts

https://youtu.be/9dsHrSq8pso?si=NSwq7y0Zg7PJuWGD

Dragncar 04-17-2024 10:23 PM

Wow, maybe it does not pay to cheat !

Formulas 04-17-2024 10:26 PM

Summit stepping up! Good to see!

steve25 04-18-2024 06:41 AM

I can understand why!

While it’s good that they did such it would be far easier since there based here to be sued then a company in China.

mgarblik 04-18-2024 08:12 AM

I am very impressed and surprised by the proactive approach taken by Summit racing. They could have gone a completely different direction, buried their head in the sand, and played the "we are just a vendor, not a manufacturer" card. But they didn't. They took responsibility for not keeping their eye on the ball and they are doing something about it. In the long run, they will gain much more business than they will lose by not selling garbage counterfeit parts. Speedmaster junk in the marketplace doesn't help anyone.

Jay S 04-18-2024 08:14 AM

Good too see some integrity from Summit. I hope other company’s follow and SM loose’s a bunch of business and has too fight lawsuits for the many things they have stole. I know some like their E head SM copies, but this world would be a better place with out SM.

MidnightAuto 04-18-2024 08:26 AM

very disappointing to see this. Don't be seduced by the low price of China. Good job Summit buyers to shut this down quickly.

Jim Zeek 04-18-2024 08:33 AM

is that the same speedmaster that makes heads?

Bill Eveland 04-18-2024 08:46 AM

Yes Speedmaster, Pro comp all the same company I believe throughout the years

nas t eh 04-18-2024 08:47 AM

Well, I think Summit is just protecting their butt, after getting caught or rather called out by the original manufacturer. They must have known from the beginning that part was stolen or copied.

mgarblik 04-18-2024 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nas t eh (Post 6498732)
Well, I think Summit is just protecting their butt, after getting caught or rather called out by the original manufacturer. They must have known from the beginning that part was stolen or copied.

No disrespect to you or even Summit but I think you give them too much credit. Speedmaster has over 1700 parts in the Summit Racing catalog. Summit Racing has 1500 different vendors in their system. We are talking about MILLIONS of different parts. If you have ever spoken to a Summit "tech expert", they are lucky to know what a 1/4"-20 bolt is or a freeze plug. I don't think there is any way they knew that obscure C-4 Ford trans brake was counterfeit or even what a trans brake is or who Broader Enterprises was. They sure as hell do now! They should know however, that all the Speedmaster stuff they sell is crap by the number of returns they are getting back however. Speedmaster sells allot of big, expensive, product on the Summit site as well. Heads, blocks, assembled short blocks, some part numbers are close to 3K each and eat up shelf space. To stop selling all that garbage was a big move for them IMO.

nas t eh 04-18-2024 10:53 AM

If they were overwhelmed by the volume of products, I guess maybe they didn’t know but … once they found out I’m sure their legal council told them they didn’t have much choice.

Shiny 04-18-2024 12:53 PM

Yes, my cynical self aligns.

Business decisions!

It can be "good business" to sell crap, even if the return rate is high... as long as the supplier reimburses you, no harm done. And since no single customer knows the return rate is 10%, the other customers keep buying.

But a lawsuit is a more compelling risk!

PAUL K 04-18-2024 02:42 PM

Interesting

Should be interesting to see what happens Black Friday

Bill Eveland 04-18-2024 05:08 PM

Rodney Butler posted something about it on his FB, wonder if people like the Butlers will follow suit and not support Speedmaster Products ....

ponjohn 04-18-2024 05:24 PM

Who manufactured the parts that Ken Brewer sold?

mgarblik 04-18-2024 06:58 PM

Jegs has dropped all Speedmaster Products as of this afternoon. Just checked their web site. It's all gone.

Steve C. 04-18-2024 07:40 PM

"Who manufactured the parts that Ken Brewer sold?"

I'm not sure about all his products, but this regarding the first Tomahawk intakes.
Posted in 2007...

"The product was developed and brought to market by Pacific Performance Racing and we named it the Tomahawk.
Professional Products was the manufacturing partner and they list the intake as part of the Hurricane product line.

Side note: If memory serves me right, the business relationship between Ken and Professional Products deteriorated over a sales agreement.

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Louie P 04-18-2024 10:54 PM

Speedmaster
 
This is how it starts. When right is wrong . and wrong is right. Is where we are. Stand up and point out the wrong . tell others . I'm so Blessed to see company's taking the correct stand. The forum publishing truth takes alot THANKS

J.C.you 04-19-2024 12:23 AM

Summit’s entire product line is probably 70% china, I believe they’re just protecting theirselves against legal action


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