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Tim Corcoran 02-23-2024 04:26 PM

Old vs New Edelbrock Heads
 
With regards to round port e-heads, does anyone have any race track or dyno data on the difference between the older style combustion chambers and the new fast burn style? Is it worth to have them converted to the new style?

Steve C. 02-23-2024 05:08 PM

Heart Shape Combustion Chamber Dyno Test

https://www.sdperformance.com/newsStory.php?newsID=41

https://www.sdperformance.com/newsStory.php?newsID=38


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Steve C. 02-23-2024 05:42 PM

Chamber Chatter
No testing data here, but some might have interest in the Edelbrock development of their heart-shaped combustion chamber for the Pontiac cylinder head.

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/in...ead-edelbrock/


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PAUL K 02-23-2024 05:57 PM

Each chamber has its place.... You can go far wrong with the CNC chamber. In our few "back to back" tests we haven't noticed much difference other than tuning requirements.

steve25 02-23-2024 06:43 PM

In theory motors with high piston speed should benefit from a fast burn chambers, and of course high reving motors like above 6500.

performerrpm 02-23-2024 08:34 PM

i think for boost the old style is better....when i had mine opened up from dave at sdperf i asked for the heart shape chambers but since i had told him it was for a blower motor he advised against the faat burn chambers

ponjohn 02-23-2024 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K (Post 6487992)
Each chamber has its place.... You can go far wrong with the CNC chamber. In our few "back to back" tests we haven't noticed much difference other than tuning requirements.

How so?

PAUL K 02-24-2024 09:36 AM

The CNC chamber is more sensitive to cam timing, piston design and burn rate.... But it's a good chamber and glad we have a choice.

78w72 02-24-2024 10:22 AM

Who does the conversion of older chambers to the newer hear shaped? I asked SD (before the fire) about doing that to a set of my 72cc E heads and he said they dont offer the service anymore since edelbrock sells them that way now.

chuckies76ta 02-24-2024 10:46 AM

Is it not also an issue with the new HSC if you want higher flow numbers,(cfm's) you need the old Edelbrock heads?

PAUL K 02-24-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckies76ta (Post 6488097)
Is it not also an issue with the new HSC if you want higher flow numbers,(cfm's) you need the old Edelbrock heads?

Flow wise the CNC chambers have an advantage.

PAUL K 02-24-2024 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 78w72 (Post 6488095)
Who does the conversion of older chambers to the newer hear shaped? I asked SD (before the fire) about doing that to a set of my 72cc E heads and he said they dont offer the service anymore since edelbrock sells them that way now.

We designed a program around 2000. It was originally created for one of Butler's "Engine Master" entries. Unfortunately with today's labor costs and inflated parts prices it wouldn't be cost prohibitive to convert a set.

chuckies76ta 02-24-2024 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K (Post 6488108)
Flow wise the CNC chambers have an advantage.


Thanks Paul. You got me thinking. I wonder what kind of timing the old chamber E- heads use. I thought the old chambers were using around 36-38* timing.

With our 505 we were at 34* on the dyno. 91 octane. We ran C12 at the start to find our best timing.

AG 02-24-2024 09:31 PM

My old bathtub Eddy chambers work best at 39 degrees timing for best mph.

Skip Fix 02-25-2024 11:03 AM

My two "old" chambers one likes 38 the other 40.

Tim Corcoran 02-26-2024 10:12 PM

Thanks for all the replies, it sounds like there is no reason to bother with changing anything. If I was class racing and chasing every last pony then I would say it would be worth it. For my mild bracket motor not worth it.

grandville455 02-28-2024 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Fix (Post 6488349)
My two "old" chambers one likes 38 the other 40.

How much power or et do u lose with say 35 degrees?

chuckies76ta 02-28-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by grandville455 (Post 6489062)
How much power or et do u lose with say 35 degrees?


Hi Darby: What heads are you running now? Or are you still running the KRE D-ports? Thanks

Skip Fix 02-28-2024 10:12 AM

Not a lot maybe 4-5hp.

grandville455 02-28-2024 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Fix (Post 6489072)
Not a lot maybe 4-5hp.

Yea, So not even worth running it that high then really if no major gains


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