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Valley Pan 08-14-2021 09:46 PM

Fuel Injected Intakes
 
Has anyone seen the prices of these intake manifolds?

https://www.speedmaster79.com/Pontia...Manifold-Satin

https://www.speedmaster79.com/Pontia...ifold-Polished

Schurkey 08-14-2021 10:05 PM

"Speedmaster".

Pretty much says it all: Chinese junk from a company infamous for Chinese junk. No fookin' way, not at any price.

NeighborsComplaint 08-15-2021 03:08 AM

Huh. I wish some one would have told me that. I thought that since my ProComp intake fit perfectly, was finished very nicely requiring only a gasket match and my 455 ran better than with the prior HSD, it was a nice intake. Just shows how little I know.

Dragncar 08-15-2021 04:37 AM

Well, he good news is that are one piece of solid aluminum that can not blow your engine to bits from poor manufacturing.

Seriously though, they are decent intakes. My 9-1 455 runs 11 flat with one. Mine was worked on a bit by SD Dave. really nice intake for ported iron heads IMO.

Skip Fix 08-15-2021 10:18 AM

A Tomahawk with the bosses already drilled.

Nobuddy 08-15-2021 11:23 AM

A bit strange that the version machined for injectors is priced so much lower.
Maybe overstock or is being discontinued.

Nobuddy 08-15-2021 11:26 AM

And for the haters, these are the old "Procomp" brand, which I hear is even more hated than "Speed master".

HWYSTR455 08-15-2021 11:34 AM

Don't forget you need their' rails too...

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HWYSTR455 08-15-2021 11:38 AM

Oh, by the way, these intakes are not made in china, they are made in Australia.


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Nobuddy 08-15-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HWYSTR455 (Post 6272529)
Oh, by the way, these intakes are not made in china, they are made in Australia.
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The one I have says "Made in China" in the casting.

HWYSTR455 08-16-2021 07:09 AM

Maybe at one time they were, but PCE foundries are in Australia.


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Steve C. 08-16-2021 08:41 AM

This posted on another site....

Speed Master ,"a global company", is headquartered in Australia with some R&D and production facilities there but production of a lot of their products is outsourced to other countries.


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HWYSTR455 08-16-2021 08:55 AM

Interesting, thank you steve c. for that information, noted!

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Tom Vaught 08-16-2021 09:04 AM

Almost all of the cast aluminum intakes out there (aside from the Holley and Edelbrock stuff) has been produced for many years in "Other Countries" China being the big one.
Ford of Australia did have casting capabilities for many years in Australia, prior to getting out of that production market.

Edelbrock was far bigger in the aluminum casting business than many would realize and produced castings for over 70 years in the USA.

Tom V.

grivera 08-16-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HWYSTR455 (Post 6272527)
Don't forget you need their' rails too...

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Speedmaster rails?

HWYSTR455 08-16-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by grivera (Post 6272743)
Speedmaster rails?

Yeah, the brackets too, they make a rail/hardware kit, but looks like some are not in stock at the moment.

Injector spacing is specific to the engine families. You can have them made, but that can become cost prohibitive.

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Skip Fix 08-16-2021 09:35 AM

Wonder if the Edelbrock rails would work?

HWYSTR455 08-16-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Fix (Post 6272746)
Wonder if the Edelbrock rails would work?

Maybe if you make your own stands, but it can be a challenge. The injector spacing is correct though.


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Tom Vaught 08-16-2021 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HWYSTR455 (Post 6272745)
Yeah, the brackets too, they make a rail/hardware kit, but looks like some are not in stock at the moment.

Injector spacing is specific to the engine families. You can have them made, but that can become cost prohibitive.

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Since the question about Fuel Rail mounting hardware was raised in a post, here are the dimensions for the "RAIL RETENTION BRACKETS: (SHORT & TALL)

These dimensions are taken from Victor and Super Victor Intake mounting hardware.

Tall Mounting Bracket (STEEL) STRAP: .090" MATERIAL THICKNESS
TALL BRACKET HEIGHT (STANDING ON END ON A FLAT SURFACE: 2.780"
OUTSIDE WIDTH OF THE "U-MOUNTING BRACKET (BOLT END): .750"
OUTSIDE WIDTH OF THE "U-MOUNTING BRACKET (RAIL END): .870"
MOUNTING BOLT HOLE: .290" DIAMETER
MOUNTING BOLT HOLE (FUEL RAIL BOLT): .280" DIAMETER

SHORT Mounting Bracket (STEEL) STRAP: .090" MATERIAL THICKNESS
SHORT BRACKET HEIGHT (STANDING ON END ON A FLAT SURFACE: 1.600"
OUTSIDE WIDTH OF THE "U-MOUNTING BRACKET (BOLT END): .930"
OUTSIDE WIDTH OF THE "U-MOUNTING BRACKET (RAIL END): .930"
MOUNTING BOLT HOLE: .280" DIAMETER
MOUNTING BOLT HOLE (FUEL RAIL BOLT): .280" DIAMETER

Have fun trying to make these things. It is not going to be a easy process
as you need 4 brackets, for a manifold, minimum.

Tom V.

HWYSTR455 08-16-2021 03:41 PM

Edelbrock has 2 different brackets and maybe rails too, depending on the type of injectors you use.

The rails for the SpeedMaster are here:

https://www.speedmaster79.com/Pontia...ector-Rail-Kit

There's two different ones, not sure which kit is for which intake, would have to check. But the brackets for the one appears to be simple 'L' type. Might be able to fab something for the Edelbrock ones. You would need to mock it up, the pad on the intake is the determining factor I believe.


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