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Held for Ransom 02-15-2024 10:37 PM

1970 Trans Am on BAT
 
Wow, I wouldn't know where to start...
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...d-trans-am-28/

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-16-2024 12:27 AM

Are you trying to say that you don't like the seat covers , dash bezel , simulation carb with wrong code , and the alternator bracket ?

Its a good car and still gonna bring good money.
If the deviations and short faults don't get caught it might go 6 figures

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-16-2024 12:33 AM

The stripe kit doesn't appear to be the better style .
But its gonna pass to most viewers.

Formulabruce 02-16-2024 12:57 AM

A Lot there to look over. Being a Ca car brings into the light some different questions as well.
Speaker on the right side and the spare pushing the enclosure sideways..
Front sway bar mounting set up is wrong for a T/A .( didn't get energy suspension mounts and bushings)
Exhaust, well they didn't call Eric.
Driveshaft,...?
I question the rear springs . all shiny, and too high, and well too much of the car is all shinny for a super original car ( investment grade IMHO)

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-16-2024 01:18 AM

I didn't pay any attention to the wheel stamp pics until they were mentioned.
ouch

Held for Ransom 02-16-2024 06:18 AM

The more one looks, the more one finds...

65madgoat 02-16-2024 02:00 PM

Why is it that so many early 2nd gen dash bezels get replaced?

72projectbird 02-16-2024 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 65madgoat (Post 6486281)
Why is it that so many early 2nd gen dash bezels get replaced?

Who knows? My 71 has an 80 bezel in it lol

On the 70, lots of little details wrong, but looks like a pretty good car overall. Makes me happy that mine currently under the knife was completely untouched before starting the resto. Those little things add up!

unruhjonny 02-16-2024 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 65madgoat (Post 6486281)
Why is it that so many early 2nd gen dash bezels get replaced?

Even twenty years ago, it was (as I understood it) to replace a nice looking later dash insert - with it's shiny machined finish, for one which was dull and often worn to the point that the machine finish was gone, and left in it's place was a dull grey/flat aluminum.

When I last looked at this listing (thank you email alerts!) it was at (or somewhere close to) $35k;
I am guessing that a numbers matching 1970 Trans Am - with a 'WS' engine is what the current bidding (at $71k) is ALL about.

EDIT:

Wow!
They did a good job hiding the fact that this IS an RTS dash insert!!

1967gto1 02-16-2024 03:11 PM

Anybody have any comments on the 72' trans am that's on there?

Transamric 02-16-2024 03:23 PM

Glad I'm not the only one who finds issues with this TA. Yes, it'll go for big bucks. Most likely to someone who doesn't know that much about our favorite model.

Seller's response to my comment about the use of a 1973 model year front bumper seems to show he doesn't understand the difference between the 1973 and the 1970-72 part. Notice the 1970-71 grilles have had to be hacked in to place since the '73's attach in a different way.
I'm probably going to offend some by saying, IMHO, I see this one as a "10 footer" at best.

unruhjonny 02-16-2024 05:32 PM

I had an "ah-ha" moment some years ago where a member rightly pointed out I was coming off more critical than I had intended;
I took that to heart, and have tried to not be overly negative when offering criticism of any car.

From my cursory look over the car (I didn't do much more than glance at maybe a quarter of the images - I mean there is over three hundred!!), the body work looks good.

Now, the the mechanicals, and body work are good - that's all the less that any subsequent owner should or might want to replace later on.

I am honestly remiss at how quickly these cars have escalated in value;
These cars when from being "redneck-salt-of-the-earth" type cars, to fodder for people with income a whole lot higher than myself;
If you can afford to spend $80k on something like this, then surely another $10k to make it all the better should be a no-sweat sort of deal.

The only thing that had me really scratching my head was the valve stem location of the front drivers wheel... to me, that looks just wrong - and I don't understand how that could be.

unruhjonny 02-16-2024 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1967gto1 (Post 6486305)
Anybody have any comments on the 72' trans am that's on there?

you made me look for it - surprisingly, I never received an email notification about this one.

1972 Trans Am on BAT

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-16-2024 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 1967gto1 (Post 6486305)
Anybody have any comments on the 72' trans am that's on there?

Was always a 70 man.
But I'd take the 72 over this 70

Both are quality cars with their own drawbacks .

Tellyshavilli 02-16-2024 10:05 PM

Oh and Don’t forget the washer bottle cap !

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-16-2024 10:29 PM

I have a 70 tucked away with what was a super nice OEM Black Custom Deluxe interior.
Have not opened a door on it in years and more trouble to get at it and in it than I care to journey on a whim.

But does anyone else have opinions or proofs about the seat covers or door panels on this 70 ?
The front and rear seats both seem too "flattened" to me.
And I can't get good enough zoom to determine the detail of the comfort weave.

Doesn't look right to me.
Sort of like replacement covers over old cushions or something ..... sumpn

eaglesan13 02-16-2024 10:42 PM

Sold new in California so it had the EVAP system. The liquid vapor separator is there (even has the correct yellow hose clamps), but I don't see the canister under the hood. I don't see the metal line near the brake booster or the metal line under the radiator either.

Later fan shroud.

Water temp gauge reads 220/260, should be 210/250.

70 birds are a bitch to get right.

71GP76TA 02-17-2024 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6486177)
I didn't pay any attention to the wheel stamp pics until they were mentioned.
ouch

Those stamps are hideous. Looks like he has the correct ones though.

Held for Ransom 02-17-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1967gto1 (Post 6486305)
Anybody have any comments on the 72' trans am that's on there?

Just that it sold for $97,500.

242177P 02-17-2024 03:35 PM

A high level restoration that fails (through ignorance
or duplicity) to get all the important details right isn't
high level at all. Three dressed up as a nine.


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