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Pepper Judge 12-12-2013 09:04 PM

70 Ram Air IV GTO on eBay; price too good?
 
Does the buy it now price at $24,500.00 seem too good to be true on this Ram IV 70 GTO?

More details are needed to value it but…

Here is the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...US_Cars_Trucks

Greg Reid 12-12-2013 09:42 PM

It does but the seller, sweetmuscle, is a pretty well known member here....so...maybe not.

necdb3 12-12-2013 09:47 PM

You know what they say, "if it sounds to good to be true"

70ram4 12-12-2013 09:55 PM

I have dealt with and bought cars from him in the past, no issues, but I suggest you call him for any questions as he has the car.

indymanjoe 12-12-2013 10:12 PM

Simply do a search here.

weranc55 12-13-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70ram4 (Post 5084166)
I have dealt with and bought cars from him in the past, no issues, but I suggest you call him for any questions as he has the car.

Agree I have done a few deals with Sweet and have not had any problems.

Pepper Judge 12-14-2013 11:13 AM

A lot of watchers but I'm surprised it wasn't snapped up at that price.

The Boss 12-14-2013 11:18 AM

Buy it, pull the motor, drop in some other 400 that's painted up nice and run it through an auction.

You'll be dollars plus a RAIV motor ahead when you're done.

hobi 12-14-2013 11:30 AM

RAM AIR IV JUDGE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Boss (Post 5085338)
Buy it, pull the motor, drop in some other 400 that's painted up nice and run it through an auction.

You'll be dollars plus a RAIV motor ahead when you're done.

THE PHS SAYS THE CARS A RAM AIR IV THATS INDISPUTIBLE AFTER SWAPPING THE MOTOR YOUR ONLY HALF WAY THERE NOW DO YA SWAP THE VIN TO?????????:jumping::jumping::sleep::attention

hobi 12-14-2013 12:54 PM

RAM AIR IV CAR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Boss (Post 5085338)
Buy it, pull the motor, drop in some other 400 that's painted up nice and run it through an auction.

You'll be dollars plus a RAIV motor ahead when you're done.

BOSS JUST WANDERING WHAT YOU WOULD DO WITH THE VIN AND THE PAPERWORK:jumping::sleep::attention

Greg Reid 12-14-2013 01:48 PM

I think what he's saying is that at such a good price, you could buy it, grab the RAIV motor and still re-sell it at that price, honestly, as a real RAIV Judge with incorrect engine.
In the meanwhile, you'd have a RAIV engine (which probably isn't original to the car anyway) on the stand in your garage.
Pretty good thinking. I'd consider it myself if it was a bit closer.

hobi 12-14-2013 02:02 PM

RAM IV JUDGE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 5085444)
I think what he's saying is that at such a good price, you could buy it, grab the RAIV motor and still re-sell it at that price, honestly, as a real RAIV Judge with incorrect engine.
In the meanwhile, you'd have a RAIV engine (which probably isn't original to the car anyway) on the stand in your garage.
Pretty good thinking. I'd consider it myself if it was a bit closer.

WELL THE BUILD SHEET POSTED SAYS ITS A RAM IV GTO NOT A JUDGE BUT THE CAR HAS ALL THE JUDGE STUFF BUT EITHER WAY IF YOU YANK THE DRIVETRAIN LIKE THE BOSS SAYS WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE VIN AND THE PAPERWORK WHO IS REALLY GOING TO DO ALL THAT AND SELL THE CAR WITH THE VIN AND PAPERWORK BOSS THE QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT TO DO WITH THE CAR DO YOU LEAVE THE VIN ON THE CAR BIG DECISION:jumping::sleep::attention

Matt Meaney 12-14-2013 02:41 PM

that car was on ebay before, a couple times, a while ago. I thought sold for about 20K.

Greg Reid 12-14-2013 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobi (Post 5085450)
WELL THE BUILD SHEET POSTED SAYS ITS A RAM IV GTO NOT A JUDGE BUT THE CAR HAS ALL THE JUDGE STUFF BUT EITHER WAY IF YOU YANK THE DRIVETRAIN LIKE THE BOSS SAYS WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE VIN AND THE PAPERWORK WHO IS REALLY GOING TO DO ALL THAT AND SELL THE CAR WITH THE VIN AND PAPERWORK BOSS THE QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT TO DO WITH THE CAR DO YOU LEAVE THE VIN ON THE CAR BIG DECISION:jumping::sleep::attention

Sorry, missed the part about it not being a Judge. Not trying to answer for Boss but if I were going to do what he suggested, I'd yank the engine and sell the car as a true RAIV GTO.
Of course, you'd leave the VIN with the car. It would be a documented RAIV GTO with a standard 400 engine in place of the original.

AdamIsAdam 12-14-2013 05:20 PM

I"m on the hunt for a car myself. I saw this one. Anyone know if it's good or too good to be true? My preference is 68-69, but a nice deal on a 70 is ok too.

hobi 12-14-2013 05:32 PM

RAM IV CAR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam (Post 5085589)
I"m on the hunt for a car myself. I saw this one. Anyone know if it's good or too good to be true? My preference is 68-69, but a nice deal on a 70 is ok too.

BUT IT NOW:jumping::sleep::attention:attention

goatmanmitch 12-14-2013 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobi (Post 5085450)
WELL THE BUILD SHEET POSTED SAYS ITS A RAM IV GTO NOT A JUDGE BUT THE CAR HAS ALL THE JUDGE STUFF BUT EITHER WAY IF YOU YANK THE DRIVETRAIN LIKE THE BOSS SAYS WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE VIN AND THE PAPERWORK WHO IS REALLY GOING TO DO ALL THAT AND SELL THE CAR WITH THE VIN AND PAPERWORK BOSS THE QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT TO DO WITH THE CAR DO YOU LEAVE THE VIN ON THE CAR BIG DECISION:jumping::sleep::attention

First off, press the 'caps lock' before you type anything else.

The Boss did not imply anything about separating the VIN from the car. He did imply keeping the RAIV engine and selling the car, VIN and all, with a different engine. Nothing illegal or immoral. Just as Greg Reid said.

Ram4king 12-14-2013 08:01 PM

You guys are CRAZY. What we have here at best is a 70 raiv gto with the wrong motor,probably wrong trans and wrong rear. Wrong interior color too. So we have a cobbled up car for how much????? By the time your done you will have more money in it that's it's worth...why do u think the real players on this board and there's plenty are not buying it. And the seller is questionable at best. I've heard out lots of problem deals but I won't go there..ITS CHRISTMAS time for Christ sake. Anyway. If u like to gamble then go for it. I'd rather buy an all original base motor car that's not whored up myself. Here's Tom with the weather!

Peje 12-14-2013 08:43 PM

Factory built with Verdoro Green and black vinyl top,correct?

1970 GTO Ram Air IV 2dr hardtop.Production: 140(automatics)
Interior: Black 258,not correct acc to pictures?

The PHS shows a nicely optioned car and if most options remains,what´s wrong with the price? Seems that the car was delievered with "poverty-caps"

MCronkGTO 12-14-2013 10:47 PM

It may not be to the liking of the "numbers matching crowd" but I have seen a lot worse go for more money. If the car is truly a very nice driver and has most of the RAIV engine components it is well worth it. Color changes are personal preference, and a lot of people could care less about numbers matching, they just want the "look". Most of the cars in BJ auctions are not even close to being "correct" but they bring big money. In fact there seems to be a "trend" of non numbers matching "resto" cars with modifications being more "popular" than a true numbers matching car. I think the price is in "sync" with what the car is.

Mark C


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