Stellantis to employees: Work from home tomorrow
 

Then fires them over zoom.

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There is a local dealer around the corner from my house stacked with "hero" Chrysler vehicles. The lot is so full you can't squeeze a piece of paper between the vehicles in it.
Go to a Toyota retailer? Lot EMPTY

That's a new level of cold and truly cruel treatment.

I read that yesterday and felt bad for all those affected.

During one of my layoff experiences, I was in a small R&D group working remotely from the main company and we were actually treated decent. When we were visited by the HR manager, she described her message to the main employee base she'd just terminated by raising her arm, flapping her hand twice, and mockingly uttering "bye-bye". She thought this was funny.

This stunt by Stellantis is right up there.

I remember dreading Friday afternoon "all-hands" meetings when layoffs were imminent.

I hope all those hard-working Stellantis employees find more a more human employer. Something tells me a 30% paycut by a few executives could have saved a LOT of jobs. Values!

After Joe "the big guy" takes credit for getting Stellantis to reopen their plant here in Belvidere, Il.

Everything has consequences. Me, I figured something would happen. Stellantis shut down the plant due to the market, restarting it without a market improvement was going affect someone.

George

What is a "hero" Chrysler vehicle?

Toyota lots have been MT for a few years now. Other brands have recovered.

george

I suspect he might have meant "halo" cars? :noidea:

What I would deem to be a "hero" car would be one that is currently owned by a caretaker of "historic" GM vehicles that was not manufactured by GM.
Various forums I'm active on relative to the GM historics, the owners of these cherished relics have abandoned GM's current offerings for something they feel "is so much better". Those cars must be "hero" cars, as they have saved their owners from the maladies that exist with current GM products. And the manufacturers of said vehicles would be either F.O.R.D. or Chrysler.
They are that good? I have a work whip 2021 F.O.R.D. Explorer pursuit hybrid that is out of service more than it runs. And what I read about Fiat Auto Group products or whatever they are referred to consistently post the worst owner satisfaction results due to being extremely unreliable and overly problematic.
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Here we go

Getting the ax at home, you could t even grab any car stuff you had stashed at work 🤣

Yes, probably part of their strategy to limit their data walking out with their exes, especially if they're laying off people who work in R&D or have access to sensitive business or personnel files.

I remember one of my managers was let go and immediately locked out of his office and sent home. He could only retrieve his personal effects in the presence of some other manager that hadn't been tossed. That was sad to watch, unnecessary, and felt like a display of power and a warning at the time.

I get it, but I don't like it.

I admit to having layoff PTSD so these stories trigger ghosts and I'm sure I'm not alone.

I’m a trades man, I cant tell you how many times we were layed off, everyone should get layed off.
We actually looked forward to it.
I’ve heard of brass hat cars, no Heros

that's terrible...

How do you get fired on your day off?
Sorry, I couldnt resist.

There was a problem with the president of the bank we did a lot of work for. Our office got a call from the vp one evening and requested that we had someone on sight at 630 am the next morning to change all of the locks before he came into work. That was just the beginning of the S storm though.

Never any easy way to fire someone, people can react in very weird ways to it.
Can't blame any company for proceeding in that manner.
It's SOP with most company's.
Especially with the nut jobs we have running around nowadays.
I'll re-frame from stories I could tell when I was with Freightliner in the 90's
every 2 yrs. a layoff would happen and the BS they did to some of the trucks when they knew it was coming was unbelievable.
Made me hate unions.
It was way different in the 70's at Crucible Steel in Syracuse, NY.
People had self respect then.

Worked for the Southern Pacific railroad as a locomotive electrician during the late 70s-80s. Near the bottom of the seniority list so getting laid off for a few months during an economic downturn was normal. Then after a merger with Santa Fe the younger employees were all brought in for a meeting. They gave us our paycheck and two weeks extra pay and told to go home. This time it was for the long term.
Seems that previously they had a big increase in personal injuries during the two weeks notice they were required to give for layoffs. Injuries that the company was on the hook for. Paying upfront for the two weeks was cheaper than letting us work for it thus prevented 'Injuries' and possible vandalism.

Funny thing was the merger with Santa Fe was disapproved by the ICC but I was never called back to work. Twenty years later, Union Pacific, who had bought Southern Pacific, called me back to work.
I declined.

I had a neighbor 25 years ago who was fired because sat on a chair with an X on the bottom of it. He said they called everyone into the warehouse for a mandatory meeting and let 20 people go this way. I felt bad for him as he was a single guy who had just bought his first home.

I was hired by one of the big manufacturers of office furniture, to spearhead their development and release of an architectural wall. They cherry picked me with the usual lines about growth and stability, etc.
They laid off 500 people in one shot alone, and way more after that, about a week after I started. I was pissed. I was wondering if they were still going to pursue the wall product. It sure made me regret my decision to leave the other company. I left that job not long after that, then got laid off from the company that I went to. That was around 2000/ 2001. Things were not great around here at that time.
After watching the HR people at work, I came to the conclusion that you must have your soul surgically removed to do that job.

Was it fired or layoff. Lay-off you can get enjoyment ( unemployment)
They pulled out of the auto shows too, all my buddy’s are out of a job. I was considering a Moreparts truck next time around, now they can shuv them.

I've been laid off three times in a 42 yr career as a design engineer.

The first time was in 1998. I was working for a very well known tech company. As people arrived to work that morning, they were told to go to their office or cubicle and not mingle about the office. Some people shared a cubicle and were talking. The computer network was shut down, so nobody could log in. It was a big layoff, and security came to the location of each person being laid off and told them to come with them. We were taken to a small conference room, read a fixed script, and given paperwork, then escorted out of the building. We were to set up a date with security within the next to weeks to pick up personal stuff. The funny thing is that I was on the payroll for another 60 days due to the laws around large layoffs. I never saw my immediate boss or any of the HR staff that handled engineering during the process. It was very cold. Security even watched to make sure we exited the parking lot. We were told not to come back onto the property without an appointment.

The second time was less cold. I was working for another high-tech company in wireless telecom in the early 2000s. The company was based in a foreign country. Upper management made the decision to pull the work back to the home country and shut down the entire facility. We came in on a Monday and there was a 9AM meeting set up for everyone. We walked into the meeting and there was a projector showing a slide that said "Transition Plan". Basically they were shutting down the facility in three waves, everybody was being laid off, even management. The first wave of people were being laid off in either two weeks or a month, and would be given another 60 days pay on top of severance. The second wave of people would be laid off three months after that, with the third wave being laid off three months after the second wave. I was in the third wave, and it was my responsibility to make sure all projects were properly transferred and all lab equipement packed up and shipped out. I got a $25K bonus to stay to the end, on top of six months of severance. The company was very generous.

The third layoff was at a small company I worked for as a design consultant. The company was acquired by a larger design company a year after I hired on. The acquiring company had a very restrictive employee contract that said I couldn't work for anybody they either had done work for or quoted design work for five years. I refused to sign it. I thought they were going to lay me off immediately, but they didn't. I found out later that my employer contacted the company I was doing work for and said they would be replacing me with another person. The company said they wanted me to finish the work I was doing for them, so I didn't get laid off until that work finished. The company my employer was working for offered me a job when they heard I was being laid off, but I didn't want to move.

I've been with my current employer for almost 20 yrs and I can retire at any time. I'm hoping for a layoff notice.