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nh68gto 03-12-2024 08:06 AM

Help picking a converter.
 
Hey all. Need help picking a converter. Very little to no knowledge on them. lol

69 GTO 3:23 gears, cower cam, .040 400, rpm intake.
Using 200-4R. Just a street driver, zero track use.
Not sure other info needed.
Thank you.

nh68gto 03-12-2024 08:07 AM

Something budget friendly too please

KEN CROCIE 03-12-2024 10:48 AM

cam specs would help

nh68gto 03-12-2024 02:07 PM

Crower cam is 60243.
INT/EXH - Dur @ .050” Lift: 228°/235° RR: 1.5/1.5 Gross Lift: .479”/.494” LSA: 112° RPM: 1600-1800 to 6200 Redline: 6500

Sun Tuned 03-12-2024 03:14 PM

Smartest thing you could do is to give Cliff Ruggles a pm on here.

Bought several converters from him and every one was dead nutz on the money!

He knows what he’s doing.

Blindingly fast shipping also.

brad01 03-12-2024 04:48 PM

I am running that cam ! Just FYI you need compression for that cam and I'm zero decked running 10.75 to1 461 edelbrock heads with 1.52 rockers. I had Coan engineering in Indiana make me one in early 2022 coa-20211-4 and I love it. Stock tires 225/70/14 on the rear and it burns them off when i get into it. It has the original 10 bolt safe-t-track but I have the small tire so them break free to not stress the rear too much.

b-man 03-12-2024 05:07 PM

Good converter = $800

Okay budget converter = $300 - $400

So that leaves out a custom converter from Cliff.

Your best bet on a budget would likely be something along the lines of a Hughes GM25.

For myself I always spend the money for a quality custom converter. Your driving pleasure and satisfaction should matter enough to spend a little more rather than regret buying cheaper and never being truly happy.

nh68gto 03-12-2024 05:20 PM

Thanks bman. I understand, but unfortunately some house holds especially in this economy don’t have thousands at a time to put into a project. Some do need to do what is affordable and not the very best so we can still enjoy the hobby.
I do appreciate the info !!

nh68gto 03-12-2024 06:16 PM

I currently have B&m 20412 in the car. Is that no good?

Sun Tuned 03-12-2024 07:09 PM

You would do well to pm cliff…

His converters he sells are very competitively priced.

Add to that the fact that they work first time out of the box like their supposed to, for a Pontiac engine, that saves time and aggravation having to pull the damn thing back out a second time because the converter builder “oopsed” the first time….

That alone is worth $$$.

We’ve used quite a few manufacturers at work for quite a few projects, and the only 3 that did what they were bought to do …came from Cliff. Not saying I’m trying to be a paid shill advertisement for him, I’m just saying the stuff flat works like advertised.

No more, no less.

nh68gto 03-12-2024 07:23 PM

I have.
Ty.

77 TRASHCAN 03-12-2024 08:00 PM

I agree with Bob and Bart.
One of the biggest "bangs" for the buck is a custom torque converter made specifically for your combination.
Another point is that, Pontiac converters need different properties than the Chevrolet World stuff does.
Save up, if you have to!!!
Have fun with that cool car, in the "Shire!!!
Jeff

77 TRASHCAN 03-12-2024 08:00 PM

I agree with Bob and Bart.
One of the biggest "bangs" for the buck is a custom torque converter made specifically for your combination.
Another point is that, Pontiac converters need different properties than the Chevrolet World stuff does.
Save up, if you have to!!!
Have fun with that cool car, in the "Shire!!!
Jeff

KEN CROCIE 03-12-2024 08:15 PM

why not try the B&M you have. The description in The B&M catalog closely matches your engine specs.

Dragncar 03-12-2024 10:03 PM

Call Lane at PTC and buy what he recommends. Or Cliff.
A converter is one place you do not want to cheap out.

Jay S 03-12-2024 10:11 PM

The 20412 B&M converter won’t work in the 200R4. It is for a TH350 or TH400.

200R4 has a lower first gear, doesn’t really require much of a stall with street tires, you could just run a stock converter if your on a budget. Reman is less than $150.

nh68gto 03-13-2024 05:47 AM

What’s PTC ?

max 93 03-13-2024 08:23 AM

Are you looking for a lock up or non lock up ?

nh68gto 03-13-2024 09:21 AM

No idea. Lol

Steve C. 03-13-2024 09:53 AM

Make sure the company that builds the 200-4R transmission knows what type of converter will be in use.... lock-up or non-lock up.



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