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Scarebird 02-08-2021 08:00 PM

Custom seat belt rewebbers?
 
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In the rebuild of my 71 LeMans I am wanting to refit the seatbelts with a shoulder style, similar to the Tran Am but reusing the existing retractor. I contacted a few vendors but they only reweb to stock lengths.

Is there a vendor that will reweb but to custom specs?

What I have in mind:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1612828749


leeklm 02-08-2021 09:00 PM

Did you check with Seatbelt Solutions in Florida? I sent my retractors and other items for the 73 GTO to them for custon work

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Scarebird 02-08-2021 09:37 PM

No, I will ask them in the AM - thanks.

Stuart 02-08-2021 10:07 PM

I don't know how they feel about custom configurations, but I've bought belts from https://www.ssnake-oyl.com and was happy with their product. The other name I know of is https://www.julianos.com/Seat-Belts-s/96.htm

alleyCat 02-08-2021 10:56 PM

Is that not a similar setup as 69 Chevelle/GTO ? Is the upper mounting to the roof ?

Scarebird 02-08-2021 11:03 PM

alleycat - the car is a ragtop.

Schurkey 02-10-2021 12:47 AM

1. You MUST MUST MUST anchor the shoulder strap ABOVE your shoulder. Really, you need to anchor the shoulder belt above the shoulder of the tallest person who'll ever drive the car, and with the adjustable seat all the way "up". If you don't anchor it high enough, it'll compress your spine in a collision, and maybe cripple you.

Wild Guess: This is why a convertible didn't get shoulder belts to begin with.

It may be that the only way to get shoulder belts in that car safely will be to anchor them to a roll-bar; or to use modern seats with integrated belts like my Trailblazer. The belts are part of the high-back bucket seat design.

2. Are you sure a lap-belt retractor will have enough "retraction" to pull a combination lap/shoulder belt tight? I'm guessing they don't have the capacity to reel-up that much belt length.

Scarebird 02-10-2021 01:28 AM

I did look at that - I note the belt guides are mounted high and usually of plastic. My guess is that side loads are not much. Note on this pic of Mustang:

http://www.2040-cars.com/_content/ca...855620/005.jpg

and of the Camaro:

https://static.cargurus.com/images/s...1-640x480.jpeg


Needless to say I will mock this up before proceeding.

tjs72lemans 02-10-2021 06:49 PM

My '80 Fiat spider convertible has the belts like the Mustang also. But, the retractors are in the back floor.

Scarebird 02-11-2021 05:26 PM

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We pulled the seats down and fitted them up. Next the apprentice, who is 6-3ish, was used as a test dummy. As you see this is doable...

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1613079223

...except for one issue. I noted ALL modern belts I examined have the retractor in the upper mount - the reason being if you use the retractor low it will work but you will not be able to lean forward without readjusting. His 2015 Mazda 3 has of course the 3 point belt, but the high point is simply a pivot and the retractor is in the floor.

I plan to examine the armrest area and see if this is feasible here. A field trip to the local pick-n-Pull is warranted tomorrow. Friday they give a decent discount to vets too.

imposter 02-11-2021 08:35 PM

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Garys GTO Goodies is the MAN

Scarebird 02-11-2021 10:20 PM

not seeing it?

PontiacMatt72 02-12-2021 01:41 AM

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This one from “Julianos” appeals to me

Also like one from “Wesco Performance”

Scarebird 02-12-2021 02:21 AM

Either one would solve the issue - the Wesco looks more period correct.

If this can fit inside the rear armrest it should work nicely, thanks for the info.

1968GTO421 02-12-2021 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PontiacMatt72 (Post 6224408)
This one from “Julianos” appeals to me

Also like one from “Wesco Performance”

I got a pair from Julianos for my '68 Hardtop and am real pleased with the workmanship. Have not had the chance to put them in yet but will post when I do. Looks like they will use the factory attachment points just fine (and the roof mount is well above my spine).

PontiacMatt72 06-21-2021 11:36 PM

Scarebird, ever get belts purchased/installed?

Scarebird 06-22-2021 12:31 AM

Yes, used Wesco products. Works very well, will refine it with 3D printed seat guides and anchor housing.

This is the link:

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=849539


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