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Bruce Meyer 11-08-2023 05:56 PM

Replacement oil pan
 
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What is a good stock baffled oil pan on the market now? I bought this one from Butler and it is unusable. That is a factory timing chain cover so that is not the issue.

gtorich 11-08-2023 06:50 PM

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Bruce, a very good question, i got this pan from Ames............said excate to oem.................a little better than yours , but not much..............i expect some issues with aftermarket pans, but i had to open up almost all of the holes to fit.........

steve25 11-08-2023 07:00 PM

There was not enough sheet steel to start with to form that pan, or they cheaped out with the stretching die’s.

Verdoro 68 11-08-2023 07:02 PM

I used a Canton stock replacement on my build. No problems at all with fitment, even with a repro timing cover.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c.../gto/year/1968

JLMounce 11-08-2023 07:08 PM

Not a stock pan, but I recently used a nightmare performance pan with good results.

b-man 11-08-2023 07:14 PM

I’d be searching for a good used pan.

Can’t hurt to try a want ad in the classifieds here.

I had several I sold some years back, I’d bet someone on the forums has one.

gtorich 11-08-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Verdoro 68 (Post 6465963)
I used a Canton stock replacement on my build. No problems at all with fitment, even with a repro timing cover.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c.../gto/year/1968

Ken, thanks for that info..................Jason, that nitemare pan looks good also.

Rich

P@blo 11-08-2023 07:40 PM

Cheap Summit gold oil pan worked fine and even came with the crappy three tab seal like the Canton.

Verdoro 68 11-08-2023 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by P@blo (Post 6465973)
Cheap Summit gold oil pan worked fine and even came with the crappy three tab seal like the Canton.

I will say the slots for the oil pan gasket were off by 1/8" or so on my Canton. Using the tabs on the gasket kept the BOP pan gasket from seating in the channel on the rear cap. Easy fix - just removed tabs off the pan gasket. All the bolt holes lined up to the block and front cover no problem.

Gach 11-08-2023 10:07 PM

Bruce…That sucks.

Tim Corcoran 11-08-2023 11:59 PM

I never use the rubber seal over the rear cap on the back of the oil pan. I always use a cork gasket, the rubber gasket is problematic and can leak. Even if you don't have the groove in your rear cap for a cork gasket you can still use a cork gasket. SD Performance sell a special cork gasket to go over the rear main if you don't have the cap with a groove.

Gach 11-09-2023 12:54 AM

There’s all different scenarios, my Canton pan, when I ran it on my stock block fit no problem. With just the cork gasket on rear main. I couldn’t used the rubber gaskets with the tabs, even though Canton pan had the slots for rubber gasket. So I just used cork gasket and some good stuff sealer, just thin coat.

But on my IA11 block even with cork gasket there was a space, between the pan and cork gasket… So I had to use both rubber gasket and cork gasket. That’s how much of a space that was. But thank God I’ve never had an issue with it leaking.

But The alignment holes on the pan and front timing cover lined up perfectly. It’s like we were at a state in the Pontiac hobby, today with whats out there that its a 50/50 shot that what you get isn’t going to have a issue. So its like who knows what your going to get. Well I can see the problem is if you get something and you’ve had it for two or three months before you actually need to fit it and use it, then its a real hassle trying to get the issue resolved.

jhein 11-09-2023 12:09 PM

I used the BOP stock style pan, but it's got a 6 qt capacity. Fit without mods and no leaks, so far. Also inexpensive.

Formulas 11-09-2023 12:15 PM

You will find it all fits 'better' with gaskets in place

with that said i used a canton stock volume with baffle and had to massage some holes

JSchmitz 11-09-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Corcoran (Post 6466013)
I never use the rubber seal over the rear cap on the back of the oil pan. I always use a cork gasket, the rubber gasket is problematic and can leak. Even if you don't have the groove in your rear cap for a cork gasket you can still use a cork gasket. SD Performance sell a special cork gasket to go over the rear main if you don't have the cap with a groove.

^^^This^^^

Joe-Touring 11-09-2023 02:14 PM

I have a canton repro pan. Fit was decent, definitely much better than that

Bruce Meyer 11-09-2023 03:27 PM

Im leaning towards a Canton. I have a beat up stock one that I will try to straighten out. If that doesn't work I will order the Canton. Thanks for all the replies.

Skip Fix 11-09-2023 05:40 PM

Even on a couple of my Canton's I've had to get my hand hole punch and nibble the holes a little.

My Stef's for the 409 was so bad I sent it back to be redone-and they have a 409 block they use for mock up!

Bruce Meyer 11-09-2023 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Fix (Post 6466140)
Even on a couple of my Canton's I've had to get my hand hole punch and nibble the holes a little.

My Stef's for the 409 was so bad I sent it back to be redone-and they have a 409 block they use for mock up!

I have to say the quality of auto parts in general have gone down drastically in the last 15 years. It ruins the enthusiasm I used to have for building old cars. Poor workmanship, questionable materials, and lack if quality assurance (QA). This pan should have never left the factory where it was produced.

PAUL K 11-09-2023 08:59 PM

In addition to a road race pan we offer an American made pan that's considered a stock replacement but comes with a built in scraper, baffle and upgraded drain plug. Most of the "replacement" pans are based off the Chinese copy of the factory pan that is sold by most reproduction companies and big wharehouse "house" brand.... It's one step better than nothing.

I remember my first "made in the USA" Milodon road race pan I purchased nearly thirty years ago. Their advertising campaign at the time was "every pan is test fit" blah blah blah..... We had to grind several bolt holes to make the bolts fit.


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