Wix 51258 Discontinued
As the title says, According to summit, so I assume the Napa gold 1258 is also, as well as the Wix 51042 A freind of mine was running that one with Hedman headers not sure what a guy is gonna do now.
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PBL25288 is the American made small body purolator number. Baldwin B39
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Consider the NapaGold 1045 Oil Filter (Wix 51045) it is smaller.
https://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/Pa...px?Part=153657 . |
+2 for the Baldwin B39.
Slightly shorter than most of the others for additjonal header clearance, full flow, quickest repsonse on the gauge and you can block the bypass in the filter housing with no negatives anyplace........ |
The good news is Wix didn't discontinue the SBC tall truck filter. They still offer that filter, it's just the same size as the standard SBC filter. 🙄
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rock auto shows lots of 51258 filters available. if they are really discontinued y'all better buy a bunch of them before they are gone.
There are lots of other standard size good filters that will fit pontiacs with headers... ive been using the mobil1 filter that fits with hedman D ports & big 2" O-port hooker super comps. |
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Yikes, thanks for the heads-up. Just bought a case of 12 in case the rumor is true. That said, I'm still seeing them in stock at O'Reilly.
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Yep, they're $4.81/ea on Rock Auto. Great deal. What's nuts is that they cost $12.99/ea at O'Reilly. Wild.
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Whats the rock auto discouny code????
Going to buy a dozen ! |
+3 for the Baldwin B39
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Keep in a humidity controlled environment |
https://www.fleetfilter.com/SRCH.html
1258 for $6.40 each case of 12 Save 10% $125 orders. Save 20% $200 order. Get together with your friends and buy whatever you need to stock up for all your vehicles and get the best discount and make the shipping cost worth it. |
I just ordered 6 from Rock Auto with my discount code...4.81 each. Rock Auto Discount code is good til March. 257708170227572024
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Thanks for posting the code!
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Where is a good place to get the Baldwin filters?
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Amazon is where I buy baldwin
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Fleet Filter still shows as stocked item.. I got a case from them a few weeks ago so they’re still shipping…..
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Short Baldwin B39 is the same as Hastings LF222.
Tall Baldwin B9 is the same as Hastings LF212. Hastings are available at Rockauto. |
Thumbs up on Fleet Filter, have been using them for over 20 years.
Another option that should be around for quite sometime, the Application Listings go as far as 2012 for GM, is the Wix 51522. (https://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/Pa...spx?Part=78145) Nearly the same specs as 51045, only slightly shorter and a lower burst pressure. (if you reach the burst psi.... you have other issues) I use this filter on the GTO and my truck. 1 PN serves 2 applications. |
Are there any issues using the Baldwin B39 or the Hastings filter with a stock bypass in the filter housing?
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The Baldwin and Hastings filters are still USA made and excellent quality. Pretty much everyone else has sold out to Tiawan or China, and the quality it showing it.
I had been useing AC Delco on all my other vehicles until the last batch I ordered for my Nissa Xterra showed up with a plastic basket to hold the filter element in place and the shell was obviously thinning and crushed easily. JUNK! I used a cross reference and found Baldwin filters to replace them. Now using Baldwin or Hastings on all my vehicles, and power equipment and they are top quality parts....... |
I like the K&N HP2006. Way too expensive but that nut on the bottom makes it a lot easier to get on and off around the headers on my 65 GTO.
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We cut oil filters open to inspect the elements after break-in on the engine dyno. I have noticed a couple things about WIX/NAPA filters since they were bought out a couple years ago. 1. The cans are thinner than the older ones. They cut through much more easily than the older ones and are surprisingly thin. 2. Many of the WIX/NAPA filters are just slightly shorter, and smaller diameter than ones from 1-2 years ago with the same part number. You can see it visually and my cup style filter wrenches will not grab and hold the new filters as well as the older ones. Much like many food items that are shrinking in the grocery, the filters are shrinking very slightly and I assume to save a penny or two on each one. Still like the filters but they are cutting corners in ways only the careful consumer would ever notice. FWIW.
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Both Baldwin filters and WIX filters are part of a diversified group of manufacturing companies.
Both with filter products in the world market and with manufacturing and distribution centers in the United States, and worldwide. Including China. I would suspect other companies that offer oil filters might be in the same situation. And not just oil filters, one might question where any automotive products are manufactured. . |
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I suspect that's pretty common with most any filter these days, or anything else you buy, lol. |
Just doubling checking here, if talking about the small balwin filters..........the B39 is 3 11/16 OD and doesnt fit on my 66 with dougs headers, but the B30 is OD 3 and length iis 5 1/8............that one seems to fit my car.
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Just doubling checking here, if talking about the small balwin filters..........the B39 is 3 11/16 OD and doesnt fit on my 66 with dougs headers, but the B30 is OD 3 and length iis 5 1/8............that one seems to fit my car.
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Which WIX 51258 is prefered, black or white?
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...t=5340&jsn=273 https://www.amazon.com/Wix-51258-Spi...A1UT4CS4MVANP0 |
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Is there a problem with using an AC Delco PF61 on a car that isn’t raced and driven sparingly?
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I've never liked the ac delco filters. Even way back in the 90's I felt they were poor quality when I was cutting them apart, typically finding a loose filter inside due to the retaining device they used shrinking. Can't remember for sure now if it was a piece of rubber but that's what comes to mind. I want to say something with a piece of cardboard, lol But it's been so long since I've cut one of those open my memory is fuzzy, I've just never been interested in revisiting those things.
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Has anyone confirmed that the Wix is actually discontinued? Summit seems to be the only place that no longer has it, but it looks to be readily available everywhere else. The Wix site doesn't list it as discontinued either.
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Did some research. Some other sights say the WIX is discontinued yet many suppliers still show them in stock. Country of origin is now showing China. Better off following Cliff’s advice and look for Baldwin/Hastings from now on. Years ago I purchased four dozen WIX 51049 long filters when they were US made. Still working through them. Also have 18 AC PF24 filters in stock.
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I just called WIX Customer Service: 800-949-6698
The 51258 is not discontinued, they were delayed in production is all. They said that all new orders requests have shipped. |
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Alright then, it said "not available "on Summit website, I clicked the thing for them to notify me when it became available again, after over a month I received an email last week that it was Discontinued. I apologize if it's not the case wasn't my intent to spread misinformation. |
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FWIW, I received six 51258s today from Amazon and all are made in the USA - just like every other 51258 I've purchased over the last few years.
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Stopped by the local NAPA and out of curiosity I checked to see if they had any 1258 filters. They had one on the shelf. It had a purple rubber seal and the box said it was made in Vietnam. Someone posted a while back at the NAPA golds were all USA made. Doesn’t look like that’s the case anymore..
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I bought a car part once that said made in China on the box.
Turned out the part itself was made in the US but was packaged in a box that that was sourced from China. . |
It's been posted here before that WIX no longer makes the majority of NAPA filters as they have in the past 50 years. WIX was bought out by Mann/Hummel, a Geman manufacturer, that sources almost all their filters globally.
Some of the You tube warriors, that dissect filters on their videos have shown that some of the new filters from H/M are not of the same quality, or construction, as the older versions were. Previously the same last 4 numbers of WIX and NAPA filters were identical inside, that has changed. Formerly if you couldn't get a WIX part, the NAPA version was identical, no longer the case. |
"Stopped by the local NAPA and out of curiosity I checked to see if they had any 1258 filters. They had one on the shelf. It had a purple rubber seal and the box said it was made in Vietnam. Someone posted a while back at the NAPA golds were all USA made. Doesn’t look like that’s the case anymore."
I'm finding this more and more with automotive parts. Recently needed to replace the bearings in the idler and belt tensioner on my Nissan Xterra. To avoid paying several hundred dollars for OEM complete assemblies or buying crappy imported replacments I took the originals apart and got the part numbers off the bearings to source out good USA made replacement bearings for them. I had no idea that 99 percent of the bearings made these days come from offshore and USA bearings are pretty much extinct. I found bearings all over the place, they were made in China, Taiwan, Poland, Japan and Italy. No USA made bearings readily available in the parts numbers I was looking for. The choices were from SKF, KOYO, Timken,NSK, NIN, BNL, NACHI and at least half a dozen others, but none were USA made and in many cases it was difficult to tell where they were coming from. It appears from my research that nearly all bearings these days are "globaly sourced". Kind of interesting but one of my original bearings was USA made, the other from Taiwan. Since both lasted to the 100,000 mile mark and just needed some fresh grease I popped the plastic covers off of one end and cleaned/repacked them. This bought me some time and I was able to locate NOS USA made bearings to replace them, but for now just put them on the shelf as the repacking job is working well for the time being. As this relates to oil filters in the past year or so several of the USA made filters I have been buying for my vehicles here (AC Delco) switch their manufacturing to China. I probably wouldn't have known except the filter on my XTerra is difficult to access and I have to reach in and give it a good twisting by hand as no tools I own will get near it. On the last oil change I dented in the housing it was so thin. So I pulled it back off and not only was the housing thinner than the USA made one removed it had a cheap plastic cage holding the filter element and plastic bypass valve. What a POS. I threw all the new ones out and went on a search for a well made filter. Using an online cross-reference and Rock Autos excellent selection from worst to best for every vehicle they list I found that Baldwin/Hastings makes several filters to fit my application so I ordered a few of them. They are excellent quality, heavy metal contruction, metal cage holding the filter media and HD metal bypass valve/spring. So for now I'm good to go, but like everyone else it's probably just a matter of time before the excellent Baldwin/Hastings filters end up coming in from offshore and not made as well as what they are currently marketing........FWIW...... |
I don't think you'll have to wait long Cliff, lol. As I posted earlier the Baldwins are already coming from Europe, Mexico, Australia, China, South Africa and Morocco according to a site search. This is pretty much the case with all filters, Wix included.
I suspect it's pretty much luck of the draw what you end up with depending on where a certain business gets their batch of supplies for that month. Oddly enough none of the searching I did found anything that claimed made in USA. It could be they are simply doing some small process here in the states after it comes off the boat, and then reboxing/branding said claim. For what it's worth, I just ordered a dozen Wix filters from Rock Auto that are due here today. I'll report where they claim they are made when UPS gets here. I also plan to run up to Napa to grab some Napa Gold filters for Chevrolet today. I'll compare and report back. |
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