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Noticed on the show last night everyone did a segment on their cars and especially engines, all except Chief. All he did was complain about his engine.
Sounded like all the other guys are now promoting parts and suppliers, even had banners in their shops in camera view.

Wonder why Chief said nothing about his set up? You saw the Butler valve cover but that was it. You'd think running for the #1 spot week in week out against those 500-700 cu in engines would warrant some comments on his set up. Kicking their butts with a lowly Pontiac and all.

I saw his new Aluminum bare block at Butler back in January, but never heard anything more on it.

Who?

I know what you mean about promoting their stuff.They werent too happy with him not finishing it before 3am. The previews of next week it looks like the camaro is out front a little so unless he spins or something the chiefs gto looks like a loss.

Chiefs car is now the one that’s under powered........480 cubes and e-heads ain’t going to get it anymore. All most all of the cars are twin turbo and big cu. JMO


GTO George

Maybe he was unhappy with the issues he was having. Anyone know what happened to the CV1 engine?

Oh DAMN...........here we go again!



GTO George

Lol.....wasn't like three years ago they went to dinner and completed the deal?

He’s had some ups and downs since then.......life is that way.



GTO George

I understand...... but did that effect the new mill getting done?

I thought he did a good job of trying to run his bye and get back for cool down and make the pass. He even drove back with the chutes still out to save time.
For 10 grand he did the right thing. They can't pin it all on him since just one run done better by anyone earlier could have saved time.

As far as power, I don't see anyone putting all that power to use on that street, at some point on the street it becomes a balance. His car all along has had the right amount of power for the application. One reason why he, Ryan and Chuck are so consistent, while the big guns are hit and miss.
Just wished he'd plugged his Pontiac build like everyone else did.

We’ll never know BUT he better take that next step up, if he wants to stay on top.


GTO George

Let me start by saying I do not watch the show. The problem is almost every time someone says CV-1 a chit storm happens. From my limited understanding, if his CV-1 top end is not done it is just about done. I am sure Bill, or Jim could tell everyone exactly where the CV-1 top end stands and even post some pictures. But based on past events here why would they want to?

Stan

I agree. I think it's great that it took the other guys five years and far superior equipment to catch up. A better set of heads (if there is such a thing ;) ) might keep him out in front for a few more years.

Good points Stan, I don't know what the deal is with the new top end, that's why i asked. To stay competitive stuff needs to happen fast. One reason I'd think they (CV1 guys) might want to make an update is they used this forum to announce that Chief was going to run their heads.

Maybe move from a standard port E-head to a wide port...that will probably put him from quickest on the street to untouchable!

What about the other RAV heads out there, DCI and McCarty RAV. You think they would look at them, or maybe they have and decided to use CV-1's.

That would be better.....also a larger engine 482 aint getting it done, its not the 1990's anymore.


GTO George

[QUOTE=GTOGEORGE;5890626]He’s had some ups and downs since then.......life is that way.



GTO George

Well according to the pic I posted from 5-9-17 Big Chief already had his CV-1 Heads,valve covers,and Tunnel Ram so if that was going to happen imagine I would imagine with Chiefs work ethic it would already have happened!
That was long before his "life s*it happened" it's too bad the CV Folks might have missed a golden opportunity!
I hope that's not the case.....The CV heads are out there without a doubt going to be used out there!!!I still don't understand why it takes so long to get something done but I guess it happens every now and then. Hope whatever avenue Chief travels he has sucsess! Knowing his work ethic....he will make it happen!!!Pontiac Powered and all!!!

Chief has more then enough power for the street racing that he does...

I bet he sticks to what hes got.... He's gone high 3's! haha

You not going that fast on the street!

But he would still have to put the power down. Right now he has the power and the data to stay at the top because he can make consistent passes.. Look at the struggles Doc has had since he went bigger and lighter.

That said, I'm sure he has plans for the upgrades, calling it a "Junk car" and a "junk motor"...

He probably figured out that would be a step backwards.

It took less two minutes of research to find a pic of his 572ci top end from 5/7/18 Lol

He want to keep calling it a small block LOL

Do post links......

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Brian

End of 2016 maybe beginning of 2017 they decided??? Also seem to recall before that, a podcast where he mentioned waiting till after Indy for medical treatment. Possibly needed from accident??? .
And yes pretty sure he had cv stuff beforehand... then off for CNC. The ports were developed yrs ago... Many here joked remember.

You are a man of few words :D

I just don't want him to get embarrassed. What if the same thing happened to him as did Brian"s, it would be a bad thing for Pontiac's. I am sure he is running many times more boost.
Don't think he has ever exploded a engine.

I hope he ends up running whatever head Marcella comes up with, you know it will be the best. That or Wilcox's RAV head, he likes boost and has a pedigree. Have a ton of respect for those two.
New stuff always takes time to get sorted out though.
Even a big set of Pro Ports would be a major step up from std port E heads.
I tell some of those kids at the track who worship Chief that I have a better set of heads that his right now. Thats saying something if a nobody like me can buy a used set for 3800$ and have a better set than him.
He needs to step up.
I had a photo of Wicox's new raised port non pushrod in the port RAV billet head sent to his cell. Never heard anything back. I did try, who knows what his plans are ? He has had just about every head, E heads, Tigers, HPs, CVs.
Hope his plans are good, whatever they are.

2015 (December) the Crowmod debuted at Pri. I was there with Bill and Jim (with SLR crew) . Dick wasn't there and no meetings with Chief though, he was swarmed with fans. I stayed for entire event. We met with alot of vendors.

Think they went with another CNC shop in the middle of this. I was mostly in hospital end of August til Thanksgiving so not much in the loop through then.

It is humorous to read the speculation and nonsense sometimes.

Give it up with the CV-1 stuff. What is the problem? Pretty sure Chief can tune any motor well and will not have an issue. If he does or does not that's his choice. Every thread now turns into a head bashing thread.

Dragncar... Are you using tissues, toilet paper, or just wear a condom when you're dreaming up your nonsense???

BTW he was changing bearings quite often for awhile. Do some research and find out cause and who helped resolve. All I'll say is you'll be surprised and cv1 wasn't in any way involved.

What are you talking about ?? What "bearings" ? Don't know anything about it. Rarely watch the show. I want him to do good.
Just made a post on directions me, personally would like to see him go.
I want the best for him, biggest name we have.
Track record is what it is, I did not make it. Vast majority had had real problems trying to make big power with them. One guy is doing it, one guy.
I am sure he has extremely good help. Quinlen is top notch, he could make a Briggs and Straton run.
Don't shove words in my mouth pal.

Who said anything negative about Quillen??? No hate there dipstick... especially from CV guys. Do some actual searches and work on your reading comprehension while you're at it.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2r3xhxd.jpg

Considering this picture was taken from a thread called "Big Chiefs CV-1 project" and was posted by the guy doing the work I would say it's pretty legit.

Hard to shove words in your mouth Dragncar...there is too much crap in there already.
And I'm not your pal.

Bruce, I think you have take too much of you meds.
I never knew anything about bearings. I brought up Quinllen just to praise him, had nothing to do with YOU.

Its cool, not being your pal. I am sure you knew the context in which I wrote it.
Now go shrivel away somewhere.

Didn't GREATGTO have a 572. Whats the stroke on that 4.75 ? Going big it looks like.

Oh we still joke about it.

I saw a picture of the Lockness monster and Big Foot once too.

Dragncar,
4.35" bore 4.75" stroke is 571.25 ci

Stan

I am surprised that no one has botched about the exhaust ports being cut back. :rolleyes:

Stan

Why it’s been done before with a Pontiac.


GTO George

I think until he starts consistently falling down the list, like out of the top 5, why change? He’s still very competitive with his equipment, until they prove otherwise.

I've seen enough mock ups of CV and V engines lately you'd think there'd be quite a few actual engines out there by now. Instead it's always bare block mock ups for a photo op. I could go in my garage right now and through some new KRE heads and intake on a bare block and call it a whatever.

Lol! True

LMFAO!

Sounds like plumber training myth to me... :D

LMAO