How Many GT-37s Are In Existance?
 

What would be a good guess to how many GT-37s are still around? Does PHS record how many they have documented? I can't imagine a whole lot of these cars still exist. :)

When I'm done counting, I'll let you know.

there are a lot more 71s than 70s. at least that I've come across. of course it makes sense given the production numbers.

A 71 here

Aztec Gold, Gold reflective stripe.

Goatff here on the boards has one, think it's a 70.5

There are more left that you may think. There rare ones are the 70's and early stripe 71's. The sword stripe 71 seem to be the most common.

I have an early striped 71 (sept 70 build) 400 4bbl, and my uncle has a later 71 with a 350/3spd.

I talked to a guy fron Kokomo In who had one as did his son.

There's two more. I forget his name tho......................

Mike

I saw one for sale in Des Moines area a few years back....shoulda picked that one up.

I was just thinking normal wrecks, rusted out cars, blown engines, that got scrapped. I can't imagine that out of 5802 made in 1971 there would still be over 4000 in existance. Since they were just normal cars when new, I bet no one thought they would be worth anything down the road.

I have a Lucy blue early 71 and I knew of another Black with gold stripe late car in VA. I went and looked at a Lucy blue June built car a couple of weeks ago auto bench car that will never be a car again so you can scratch at least one from the list. Mark

I own an early-stripe '71 GT-37 in the rarest color: Rosewood, built December 1970.

Had a chance to buy a real rough '70 GT-37 a few years back. It was white w/green interior 350/3speed. It got parted out and crushed. I still have the PHS.

And there was that rusted up 70 GT-37 400/4 speed a few years ago on EBay. White with blue interior, but still sporting it's orginal motor and trans.

I think I missed that one. I bought mine a little over two years ago. rather rare to come across a 70.5 L78 car. only 268 were built

I have one, dark green, white bench seat ,4 spd,.3.55 open rear...350 2bbl..mines a
71 with the long sword stipe down the side ofthe car..its a black stripe

Might as well add my red, black interior, gold sword stripe to the list. 350-3 speed Virginia car all original including upper and lower radiator, heater hoses and KU rally IIs!

Lyn.

i have a 70 400 / 3 speed. vedero green / green cloth bench interior. it has been off the road since 1972 when the guy had an accident and it made him so angry he parked it. i bought it back in the late 70's. sold new here in tulsa.

A guy I went to school with(graduated in 89) had a 1971 GT-37, 350 3 speed, gold with black sword stripe. Was pretty rusty at that time, don't know what happened to it. There use to be a 1970 T-37 sitting next to house a few years back, that one disappeard. Also one of my older brothers friend has a 71 T-37 that is all original and no rust, red exterior, black interior, 250 six cylinder automatic.

As long as we're on the subject, I am working on a GT-37 registry on my GT-37 website, to document who has what, and how many are known. It will probably also include a registry for LeMans GTs from '72-'77.

Well let us know and provide a link and I can give you at least 3 that are in my garage and a couple more from people around here. I have a really orig dark green on green 72 GT with endura bench 3spd as well as GT-37s. Mark

Chris, is that number for GT-37s or for all Tempest and LeManses?

In '70 they were all Tempest T-37 and GT-37. In '71 they were LeMans T-37 and GT-37. In '72 they were LeMans GT's. I think it could be added to a LeMans Sport also.

only GT-37s. and it's 238, not 268. guess thats what I get for going by memory instead of actually looking at the list first.

Add the sweet Cardinal Red 70 GT-37 in this Septembers Hemming Muscle Machines mag. GTOAA Concours Gold Winner!

Yep, Steve Bothwell's car. original owner too. What I didn't realize until reading the article, his was built in Freemont like mine. So that makes two Freemont build Cardinal red 70.5 GT-37s

Great idea. Here is a copy of my PHS document.:)

http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/s...g?t=1249302157

for what it's worth I have a limkist green metalic 71 T-37 350/350 car all original I believe and a I believe it has 25k on it. can't verify though. It still has the caps on the idle adjustment screws though FWIW. It's kind of a JY dog right now but all there minus some glass and will be glorious again some day.

any production numbers on the 71 V8 T-37's?

Only 400 and larger, so using deductive reasoning the 350 info could be determined as long as you don't car about tranny breakdowns.

I have a total of 44,986 T-37's, that's a combo of 6CYL and Sedans

Also have a number of 29,466 2Dr HT T-37's (all motors).

And 34,625 Lemans Sport 2Dr's HT's

so is there any way to break that out into 2dr sedans with a 350?

Yes, through deductive reasoning based on the 400 and 455 cars.

Dan Jensen has an accurate breakdown of all Pontiac "A" body cars with the 455 HO in 71-72. I have the numbers somewhere if interested? Let me know...

It would seem that a 1971 T-37 Sedan would be on the rare side. I had never seen a sedan, just hard tops.:)

yeah it might be a bit of a challenge to find parts for

A co worker just told me about a 1970-1972 Lemans that may be for sale in my area. I'll see if I can get time to check it out this weekend. He said it may be a parts car.

T-37 Sedans. Not that hard. Lemans sedans doors work well. Quarters, fenders, bumpers, valance panels, trunk lid, hoods, glass except quarter/door, carpets are the same in '71 and only the front header/valance panel is different for '72, for all ht's/sedans. Door skins are the same. Quarters and door skins, rear bumper are same as '70. This is for 2 dr. Of course 4 dr fenders for '71-'72 are the same as 2 dr as well as bumpers, hood and trunk lid. Only windshield will interchange between 2 & 4 dr as far as glass goes except wing windows.

So when looking for parts I always look at all 3 years.

Of course not including endura nose cars.

Go to the Ultimate GTO web site for several 2 dr sedans in '70-'72 area. Mine is there also.
Almost 9000 2 dr sedan T-37's in '71.

Good information on what parts will fit. :)

71 Gold with saddle interior GT-37 350/3spd with vinyl floor was f/s here in OK forever. I called the other day and its sold pending pickup. I'd say 98% rustfree New Mexico car. Crunched header panel, pass fender, and pass door. Didn't have the cash so there is sat:(

Matt

Thanks the biggest problem is finding 2 door sedans. From what I understand the 4 door sedans and station wagon doors are shorter. I will likely just skin my door with a hardtop skin.

Thanks again I'll check out the utlimate GTO website.

so according to the information provided on the GTOalley site the fact that my car was ordered with a V8 and is in the 2 door coupe body it is a GT-37 but he car flies T-37 badging. I am confused now.:confused:

There weren't any GT-37s built on the coupe bodystyle in 1971. They were all hardtops.

What UPC WU2 said. Coupe was in brochure but mirror interfered with wing window or maybe wing window interfered with mirror. The mirror was an add on in '71. HT, Conv and sedan door skin should be the same. It is the frame on the sedan that is different.

"The GT-37 option was available on two-door coupe and two-door hardtop." from GTOalley.com

There is so much conflicting information on the internet about this.

The quote I was refering to from GTOalley.com

"The 1971 Pontiac catalog shows three T-37 2 door hardtops, coupe and 4 door sedan. The catalog says "order one of these with a V-8 on either the coupe or hardtop coupe and you can turn your T-37 into a GT-37".

So the things I know. My car is a 71 coupe 2 door it has a factory 350/350 in it with a 2 barrel carb. the car flies T-37 flags. The vin is 233 27. 233 is for T-37 27 is for 2 door coupe.

I was just curious, based on the information found on GTO alley, if my car is a GT-37. According to what I read on the GTOalley.com site it should be but it flies T-37 badging.

Just a bit confused

thanks

Sometimes advertising is not entirely correct.

And GTO Alley is a crappy website anyway.

I just don't understand the mirror issue. It certainly does not explain *why* the GT-37 wasn't available as a coupe.

that's true so is it also correct that the 71 GT-37's had hood pins? I don't believe half the crap I read on GTO Alley. It does state it in the advertisement but it may not be entirely correct however I know my car had a side mirror and it has the wing windows as well

GTO Alley is wrong. There were no '71 GT-37 post cars. I have the original Pontiac brochure that shows one. Then never made them as per the problem with the wing window and the sport mirror.

I ordered my T-37 new. I was not interested in the GT package.
The GT package consisted of the following on any 2 dr ht T-37 when ordered with ANY V-8 engine.
Hood pins
Dual Exhausts w/chrome tips coming through valance panel
GT identification on fenders and trunk
Ralley II rims w/o trim rings
G-70 X 14 raised white letter tires
HD 3 speed trans w/hurst shifter
Stripe package

My catalog shows a sedan T-37 w/stripes and wrong tires but leaves out the coupe statement. it says "Order one of these V-8's in the haedtop coupe and you can turn your T-37 into a GT-37" This is a later '71 dealer brochure.

Suggest you go back and read ALL of the T-37 and GT-37 threads by doing a search here to get more information. This has been hashed out in the past. I think I did give the links earlier in this thread.

In another ad it talks about the coupe. This brochure is dated 8/70 for the '71

All I know is you couldn't get the GT-37 in the sedan.

Do you have your PHS documentation? :)

This would be the way to determine if your car was ordered with the GT-37 option. Just because the T-37 had an optional v8 doesn't automatically make it a GT-37. In fact, if you checked off the GT-37 option you were required to select a v8 engine. But if your T-37 only had an optional v8, it's still a T-37. Not that there is anything wrong with a T-37

What gloryrestoparts said. The GT was an option and was not automatic when a V-8 was ordered in a 2 dr ht. Mine is a T-37 and is NOT A GT. I didn't want the flash I just wanted the go.

Here is a '70 w/400, auto and A/C for sale in the Sacramento CA Craigslist. I've posted the pics of this car from the ad so when the Craigslist link expires, we will still be able to reference the photos.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/1323410783.html