Originally Posted by mgarblik (Post 6388896)

Styling will always be purely subjective. As someone who had to repair these cars like the Aztek, I found the body hardware and interior pieces to be super cheap and delicate for a "utility vehicle". It had some good and some goofy interior features and it could be argued allot of features for the money. Mechanically, many, many more issues with electrical problems, pinched wires, terminals not fully seated, weird battery drains, failed modules, just poor chassis electrical than comparable models. Engines had all the problems associated with the 60 degree V-6 GM used for many years. Pulled, broken rocker arm attaching bolts, head gasket failures, coil pack failures because they mounted it to the exhaust manifold, fuel pressure regulator failures, valve cover leaks, water pump leaks, broken camshafts, all the usual stuff from that engine family. Very hard to make a case that this was some kind of transformational vehicle. It had the potential to be one, then GM took all the quality out of it as they often did during those years. Painting it a single color greatly improved the looks IMO. Before the "Breaking Bad" series, you could buy one in good condition for $600.00-800.00. They have some instant collector value now and are no longer a good beater buy. Seldom see one for under 2K now.
BTW, drove a Mach E with the biggest motors and batteries. Car is very fast, faster than 98% of the gas powered cars I have driven. Doesn't mean I like it. It drives very "heavy". It feels like the 6000 lb. car it is. Just not for me. Feels like your driving a video game, driver completely disconnected from what's happening outside the windows. Like driving an arcade game. They have a waiting list, so someone must like them. The one I drove was almost 90K. That buys allot of old Pontiac stuff!

Originally Posted by nas t eh (Post 6388910)

OK maybe the concept was ahead of its time. But that is an ugly vehicle from every angle. There is just no excuse for that.

Originally Posted by The Champ (Post 6388959)

I think the new Challengers are ugly, but there are people on this board that think they look good. I never thought of a beached whale as good looking...

Originally Posted by nas t eh (Post 6388974)

Challenger are big and look it. Not my cup of tea either. But in the right package and for enough money, they at least can perform.

Sometimes function over form is OK. In the Challengers case POWER is sexy. And they don’t look Aztec bad

Originally Posted by The Champ (Post 6389033)

My daughter's Aztek could out perform the Challenger at hauling stuff any day of the week.

Originally Posted by 242177P (Post 6389035)

So we're going to ignore the SPORT in Sport Utility Vehicle now? :Ithink:

Originally Posted by The Champ (Post 6389037)

No, her current Aztek came with the sporty factory camping package.

https://cdn.drivingline.com/media/23...verland-18.jpg

Once again, Pontiac Aztek for the win.

Buick didn't offer the camping package on their clone of the Aztek, the Buick Rendezvous. It was bland and boringly Buick.

Originally Posted by The Champ (Post 6389037)

... sporty factory camping package.

Originally Posted by turbo69bird (Post 6389068)

...And China is the largest market in the world if it wasn’t for trump they’d have surpassed us in GDP already. That’s plenty to keep Buick alive if they sell there. That’s the goose that laid the golden egg over there . USA is too busy w its head up its azz w ESG and DEI corporate crap to be anything in the future.

Originally Posted by The Champ (Post 6389033)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and she was writing the checks.

Originally Posted by kingbuzzo (Post 6389084)