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twinturrbo406 12-23-2022 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by slowbird (Post 6395381)
Just a fwiw the amount of duration on that cam is almost same as mine that made 1050hp @8000rpm from a 511ci. Seems like a lot of duration for this application to me.
3 tenth in 1/8 is a good gain for sure

… I can agree with that, but that’s what Mike has in the car so we wanted as apples to apples as we could get and a cam change with the new heads would’ve negated that data …

… maybe the next cam makes it even faster 👍🏻 …

slowbird 12-23-2022 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by twinturrbo406 (Post 6395387)
… I can agree with that, but that’s what Mike has in the car so we wanted as apples to apples as we could get and a cam change with the new heads would’ve negated that data …

… maybe the next cam makes it even faster 👍🏻 …

Shouldn't be hard to pick up with, current cam leaves a lot on the table imo

Dragncar 12-24-2022 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by twinturrbo406 (Post 6395123)
… you know what Mike weighs ? …
… maybe you can post your time slips ? …
… maybe you could post actual details of your car, including weight ? …
… maybe post your actual experience and track data with a HP combination? …
… so Mike’s HP combo is “Strange” now ? …
… so apparently you’re smarter than Kevin Sweeney ?

Thats a loaded post with loaded questions called "quick sand".

I do not know what Mike weighs, used 200lbs for the math.
What my heap has done is no secrete.
10.80 guy, not sure if I could fit all my NHRA trophies in the trunk of ,my GTO.
Yeah, whoever originally set up his car, kind of strange. 8000RPM 900 HP cam takes a whole lot of other stuff to work. 1250 carb, 5500+ converter. Not your average pump gas 505 for sure.
That guy... I would let you port my heads first.

Dragncar 12-24-2022 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by twinturrbo406 (Post 6395384)
… well paint me stupid because I didn’t expect that 👍🏻 …
… so does that mean you think the CV-1’s are good heads ? …

A 505 on its second set of aluminum heads running a 6.74, well, that is how BBCs end up in Pontiacs.
I am just glad he got it straightened out and still has a Pontiac in it.
Whatever head keeps a Pontiac in a Pontiac is a good head.
With the right cam and converter there is a lot more left in it.
Get the 60fts down in the 1.2s and let it eat.

Stan Weiss 12-24-2022 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by slowbird (Post 6395381)
Just a fwiw the amount of duration on that cam is almost same as mine that made 1050hp @8000rpm from a 511ci. Seems like a lot of duration for this application to me.
3 tenth in 1/8 is a good gain for sure

Brian,
Not saying Mikes cam is right or wrong, but the cam is part of a combination. He had .727 intake lift and the head flowed around 367 cfm there. What was your intake valve lift and head flow at that lift?

Stan

Stan Weiss 12-24-2022 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragncar (Post 6395410)
A 505 on its second set of aluminum heads running a 6.74, well, that is how BBCs end up in Pontiacs.
I am just glad he got it straightened out and still has a Pontiac in it.
Whatever head keeps a Pontiac in a Pontiac is a good head.
With the right cam and converter there is a lot more left in it.
Get the 60fts down in the 1.2s and let it eat.

Really? :eek::eek:

Stan

twinturrbo406 12-24-2022 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 6395412)
Really? :eek::eek:

Stan

… yeah, exactly… 🤣

twinturrbo406 12-24-2022 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K (Post 6395335)
Who Is Kevin Sweeney? Also what makes him smart? ..... Just curious

… you never of heard of him ? …

Dragncar 12-24-2022 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 6395412)
Really? :eek::eek:

Stan

Well, high 1.2s might be a little optimistic. But he should be able to get a mid 1.3 out of it with more tuning Takes 750 HP.
I have little doubt my 461 will get me in the 1.3s.

Dragncar 12-24-2022 04:54 AM

You guys must be nights owls too.

PAUL K 12-24-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by twinturrbo406 (Post 6395417)
… you never of heard of him ? …

No ..... But you seem to think he is smart so I'm curious who he is.

slowbird 12-24-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 6395411)
Brian,
Not saying Mikes cam is right or wrong, but the cam is part of a combination. He had .727 intake lift and the head flowed around 367 cfm there. What was your intake valve lift and head flow at that lift?

Stan

I'm aware Stan, but that's a whole lot of duration for that combo. The HP engine would have ran better with a proper cam, just like the cv1 will with a proper cam.

slowbird 12-24-2022 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K (Post 6395434)
No ..... But you seem to think he is smart so I'm curious who he is.

If he's the one that selected the cam, I'm doubting he's all that smart. Bigger isn't better.

PAUL K 12-24-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by slowbird (Post 6395437)
If he's the one that selected the cam, I'm doubting he's all that smart. Bigger isn't better.

Well you know how smart TTB is so I'm thinking this guy has to be well up there in IQ!

Just kidding Bill.... Merry Christmas

twinturrbo406 12-24-2022 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragncar (Post 6395421)
You guys must be nights owls too.

… I work 3 jobs … 😞

twinturrbo406 12-24-2022 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by slowbird (Post 6395437)
If he's the one that selected the cam, I'm doubting he's all that smart. Bigger isn't better.

… but that cam made the car the fastest it had ever been …

twinturrbo406 12-24-2022 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K (Post 6395439)
Well you know how smart TTB is so I'm thinking this guy has to be well up there in IQ!

Just kidding Bill.... Merry Christmas

… I didn’t say he was smart at all, I just asked the question if he was smarter than him …

twinturrbo406 12-24-2022 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragncar (Post 6395409)
Thats a loaded post with loaded questions called "quick sand".

I do not know what Mike weighs, used 200lbs for the math.
What my heap has done is no secrete.
10.80 guy, not sure if I could fit all my NHRA trophies in the trunk of ,my GTO.
Yeah, whoever originally set up his car, kind of strange. 8000RPM 900 HP cam takes a whole lot of other stuff to work. 1250 carb, 5500+ converter. Not your average pump gas 505 for sure.
That guy... I would let you port my heads first.

… I don’t know about your car being no secret but I would certainly like to see actual time slips of what it runs, if you have all those trophies then surely you have time slips right ? …
… so let’s see one 👍🏻 …

blueghoast 12-24-2022 11:03 PM

I'm still waiting on a dyno sheet? from Dragncar.

GT

PAUL K 12-25-2022 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by twinturrbo406 (Post 6395586)
… I didn’t say he was smart at all, I just asked the question if he was smarter than him …

I'm starting to think you don't know who he is either.


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